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Old 04-16-2018, 04:04 PM
 
Location: Denver, CO
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To all the field slaves who really think they are house slaves and are actually "free," chew on this:

About 20% of your income that is taken from you via income tax (not including all the other taxes and fees) is used to maintain a worldwide hegemonic military empire--700 bases in 90 countries--and to blow people up overseas, including thousands of children. That figure doesn't include classified military spending and other things they hide from us, so it may be much more.

Say you make $60K a year. Just as a baseline, say you're paying a 25% income tax rate. 5% of your income is spent on the military. You're being forced to pay at least $3000 to the military. You're basically working 3 weeks strictly to pay for killing people you don't know.

So even if you are staunchly antiwar, you're involuntarily funding dead bodies and funerals.

THIS is why we say taxation is theft.
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Old 04-16-2018, 04:06 PM
 
Location: Denver, CO
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Originally Posted by CraigCreek View Post
Have fun without paved roads, street lights, sewer systems, public libraries, public schools, police and fire protection, parks, health departments, mayors, other elected representatives, the court system...

Of course, you yourself could probably muddle along fairly well without these services, though drawing water from your well and boiling it would probably get rather tedious, but what about those illiterate lawbreakers who'd prowl along the unpaved, darkened roads to your house to steal that clean drinking water, along with whatever else they'd fancy?

Oh, yeah, I forgot about your AK15...
The government doesn't build the roads.

Abolish public schools. Private schools, charity schools, and homeschooling do a better job anyway.

Abolish police--all they do is shoot unarmed people anyway.

Privatize fire protection or expand volunteer departments.

Fire all politicians.

Everything else can be run by the free market.
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Old 04-16-2018, 04:07 PM
 
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Not only that but if the government wants money it doesn't need to steal it. It can just print the money it needs. What's the difference? You lose the same amount of money either way (since by them printing more, yours is worth less therefore you have less money). But it would avoid all this ridiculousness of filing tax returns and being forced to lie by the government to stay out of trouble.
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Old 04-16-2018, 04:09 PM
 
Location: the very edge of the continent
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For all the people who hate paying taxes and see the U.S. government as a source of evil, why don't you renounce your citizenship and move?
The Fed Gov charges a hefty tax for doing so (a tax on your entire net worth, not just your annual income), and if they believe they can milk you for even more tax revenue in future years, they'll decline your application to renounce. Then what?
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Old 04-16-2018, 04:14 PM
 
Location: the very edge of the continent
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Yeah, those border-jumpers are just so flush with cash, they keep dropping it in the desert! Forced labor sounds a bit like slavery to me. I think there's a couple amendments in the Constitution pertaining to that. You must be a "selective reader"!
Read the 13th Amendment.

"Neither slavery nor involuntary servitude, except as a punishment for crime whereof the party shall have been duly convicted, shall exist within the United States, or any place subject to their jurisdiction."

Convict the illegal aliens, in particular those who've also committed other crimes as well, and put them to work building that wall.
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Old 04-16-2018, 04:23 PM
 
Location: Prepperland
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Under American law, no endowed right or liberty can be subject to an excise or privilege tax.
Ergo, all taxes are limited to government granted privileges, by consent of the governed.
100% voluntary.
Therefore, taxation is NOT theft.
Sadly, such ignorant sentiments highlight the victory of the world's greatest propaganda ministry.
(It would be more useful to write a polite questionnaire to your public officials, asking for an explanation how your endowed rights became revenue taxable privileges.)
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Old 04-16-2018, 04:26 PM
 
Location: the very edge of the continent
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Under American law, no endowed right or liberty can be subject to an excise or privilege tax.
Ergo, all taxes are limited to government granted privileges, by consent of the governed.
100% voluntary.
Therefore, taxation is NOT theft.
Sadly, such ignorant sentiments highlight the victory of the world's greatest propaganda ministry.
(It would be more useful to write a polite questionnaire to your public officials, asking for an explanation how your endowed rights became revenue taxable privileges.)
You know, it would be easier to believe you, and you ARE actually theoretically correct, if the government couldn't seize my property or wipe out my bank account for alleged nonpayment of taxes. They take first; ask questions later.
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Old 04-16-2018, 04:28 PM
 
Location: Denver, CO
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Don't forget, the income tax was created as a war tax of about 1% to fund Wilson's idiotic entry into WWI.

The problem is it wasn't repealed after WWI.

The epitome of government.
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Old 04-16-2018, 04:34 PM
 
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This is a sad day for all taxpayers. For everyone else, they don't give a crap....because they are the ones getting a free ride or getting money stolen from others.

But if you DO pay taxes, then this is the day when you realize exactly much the government is stealing from you, or how much they stole, or how much more they will steal.
"On Tax Day, don't forget that taxes are legalized theft/robbery."

Then why don't you get the DoJ to file criminal charges aginst them for theft/robbery?

And they probably allow people like you to vote!
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Old 04-16-2018, 04:39 PM
 
Location: North Carolina
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Read the 13th Amendment.

"Neither slavery nor involuntary servitude, except as a punishment for crime whereof the party shall have been duly convicted, shall exist within the United States, or any place subject to their jurisdiction."

Convict the illegal aliens, in particular those who've also committed other crimes as well, and put them to work building that wall.
It does apply to what we are discussing! How many "criminal slaves" do you own?
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