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Old 04-16-2018, 09:28 PM
 
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In this day and age infidelity isn’t as big an issue as life not as those involved were consenting adults. In Trump’s alleged affairs, they’ve all been consentual. In the case of Bill Clinton there were allegations of sexual harassment, sexual assault, and even rape.
Look into the account of the very underage thirteen year old would-be model who was introduced to Trump via Jeffrey Epstein. She certainly did not consent to what happened to her - she tried to sue Trump but dropped her suit in fear for her life. Just search for "trump" "Epstein" "rape". Be aware that the accounts are quite detailed and quite disgusting.

Nor did Ivanna Trump consent to being raped by her soon-to-be ex-husband. She was paid hush money as a result and later denied her earlier statement, but she had already spoken out very vehemently about what he had done to her. You can find her testimony about this in the 1989 divorce proceedings.

You need to dig a bit further in regard to Trump's long pattern of abusing women. There's lots of evidence, and it's quite convincing. His recorded statements align with his misogyny and violent history as well.

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Old 04-16-2018, 09:29 PM
 
Location: Columbia, SC
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Is this suppose to be an attack on Trump? Strange that Democrats are attacking Trump for possible extramarital affairs when they were defending Clinton and covering for all the Kennedy boys for their extramarital affairs and possible crimes of rape, sexual assault, sexual harassment, and vehicular homicide.
Nobody ever defended Clinton for his affairs. He was and remains a vile individual. Nobody with any morals cheats on their spouse. You are the one trying to defend Trump by deflecting and changing the subject.

How about try again and defend Trump on his own merits, please, without mentioning Clinton?
 
Old 04-16-2018, 09:34 PM
 
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Nobody ever defended Clinton for his affairs. He was and remains a vile individual. Nobody with any morals cheats on their spouse. You are the one trying to defend Trump by deflecting and changing the subject.

How about try again and defend Trump on his own merits, please, without mentioning Clinton?
In the 1990s people in the media regularly defended Bill Clinton.
 
Old 04-16-2018, 09:35 PM
 
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Yes, he was accused of rape at least twice, once in college and once in Arkansas. The one in college didn’t want to come forward but the one in Arkansas did come forward.
No proof whatsoever of the supposed incident at Oxford. Dig deeper, don't relay on the scurrilous claims of Roger Stone. The Arkansas woman was money-hungry and seeking publicity. She spun a consentual affair into rape.

Bill Clinton was a womanizer in his day, but not one hint of any additional transgression has come forth since the intense individual and marital counseling he (and Hillary) sought and received following the Monica Lewinsky affair.

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Old 04-16-2018, 09:35 PM
 
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Look into the account of the very underage twelve year old would-be model who was introduced to Trump via Jeffrey Epstein. She certainly did not consent to what happened to her - she tried to sue Trump but dropped her suit in fear for her life.

Nor did Ivanna Trump consent to being raped by her soon-to-be ex-husband. She was paid hush money as a result, but she had already spoken out very vehemently about what he had done to her.

You need to dig a bit further in regard to Trump's long pattern of abusing women. There's lots of evidence, and it's quite convincing. His recorded statements align with his misogyny and violent history as well.
If any of that were factually true then it would have already been covered regularly by CNN, MSNBC, ABC, NBC, CBS, PBS, NPR, and most major newspapers.
 
Old 04-16-2018, 09:40 PM
 
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If any of that were factually true then it would have already been covered regularly by CNN, MSNBC, ABC, NBC, CBS, PBS, NPR, and most major newspapers.
The "mainstream media", you mean?

Oh, the irony...
 
Old 04-16-2018, 09:44 PM
 
Location: SE Asia
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Nobody ever defended Clinton for his affairs. He was and remains a vile individual. Nobody with any morals cheats on their spouse. You are the one trying to defend Trump by deflecting and changing the subject.

How about try again and defend Trump on his own merits, please, without mentioning Clinton?
Depends upon who and what the spouse is. Anyone with a brain would chew their own arm off rather than have Hillary wake up next to them. Like waiting for a honey badger to chew your face off.

Many have defended Bill since it first came out. Those women were tarred and feathered by the media, the Democrat party and especially Hillary.
 
Old 04-16-2018, 09:48 PM
 
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Anyone who has followed Trump beyond his surprise presidency isn't surprised by any of his affairs/sexual misconduct.

At this point, who gives a rats pitoot.
 
Old 04-16-2018, 09:58 PM
 
Location: 23.7 million to 162 million miles North of Venus
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Look into the account of the very underage twelve year old would-be model who was introduced to Trump via Jeffrey Epstein. She certainly did not consent to what happened to her - she tried to sue Trump but dropped her suit in fear for her life.
She went back to Epstein's place numerous times....sounds like she did consent.
She tried to sue him three times, and dropped her suit three times.

When in Ca., she used a fake name, a fake address and a fake phone number. She also wanted a large amount of money.
Fake name, address and phone number, how could anyone contact her to threaten her?

When in NY, she used a fake name and NO phone number or address. She wanted money, too, but far less than what she'd tried to get in Ca.
Fake name, no address and no phone number, how could anyone contact her to threaten her? especially in a large city like NYC??

More than likely the 'ex-jerry springer producer' who was bankrolling her had decided to pull funding.


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Nor did Ivanna Trump consent to being raped by her soon-to-be ex-husband. She was paid hush money as a result, but she had already spoken out very vehemently about what he had done to her.

You need to dig a bit further in regard to Trump's long pattern of abusing women. There's lots of evidence, and it's quite convincing. His recorded statements align with his misogyny and violent history as well.
The setting where Ivana made that comment - d.i.v.o.r.c.e court .. yep, she had absolutely no reason to 'try' to make him look as bad as she could. P.S. She recanted that 'story'


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If any of that were factually true then it would have already been covered regularly by CNN, MSNBC, ABC, NBC, CBS, PBS, NPR, and most major newspapers.
Yes. It would have been front and center from day one until now.
 
Old 04-16-2018, 10:03 PM
 
Location: Denver, CO
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Sure, and you guys used that to label Hillary a Warhawk.
While Trump has gone and put us in military situations that weren't necessary.
So it goes round and round, and we'll continue to point it out to each other.

If the pee tape is real (I don't think it is, but it sounds exactly like Trump), I think that Trump should have embraced it. It wasn't Kompromat, his supporters would have loved it. I'm a yuuge Obama fan, and I still would have found that gangsta. Definitely not Presidential but if people voted for him knowing the other stuff, I don't think the **** tape would have changed anyone's mind.

Am I wrong?
What do you mean “you guys?” I'm an anarchist. I don't vote.

You may have me confused with a Trump supporter.
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