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Old 04-23-2018, 11:50 AM
 
Location: East of the Burgh.
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Your bias is duly noted.
You can't be bias if your argument is supported by facts and statistics.
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Old 04-23-2018, 12:18 PM
 
Location: Home, Home on the Front Range
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You can't be bias if your argument is supported by facts and statistics.
Data are manipulated every which way every single day.
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Old 04-23-2018, 12:27 PM
miu
 
Location: MA/NH
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People of all races have been hanging out at Starbucks without buying ever since Starbucks got big. Why do you only care if Blacks do this? Explain yourself!!
But what percentage of the people sitting in a Starbucks cafe on any given day are hanging out (longer than 15 minutes) without anyone at their table ever purchasing anything??? Starbucks' seating area has never advertised themselves as a public hangout with free WIFI.

And if anything, the employees seem to try to be nice about the situation, but really it's not fair to Starbucks to push the limits and be really obvious about being a moocher or squatter.

I just don't understand this attitude of entitlement. Starbucks doesn't owe the poor free WIFI and seating. Go to a public library for that and allow the paying customers the ability to sit at a table to enjoy their paid for refreshments.
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Old 04-23-2018, 01:48 PM
 
Location: Laguna Niguel, Orange County CA
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But what percentage of the people sitting in a Starbucks cafe on any given day are hanging out (longer than 15 minutes) without anyone at their table ever purchasing anything??? Starbucks' seating area has never advertised themselves as a public hangout with free WIFI.

And if anything, the employees seem to try to be nice about the situation, but really it's not fair to Starbucks to push the limits and be really obvious about being a moocher or squatter.

I just don't understand this attitude of entitlement. Starbucks doesn't owe the poor free WIFI and seating. Go to a public library for that and allow the paying customers the ability to sit at a table to enjoy their paid for refreshments.
The end result of this stunt will be that toilets and seats must be made available to homeless individuals. Imagine how gross they will get and fast if they never require purchases in urban areas. LOL!!!
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Old 04-23-2018, 02:18 PM
 
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I used to go to Starbucks all of the time. I don't watch Hannity nor any televised news.

I stopped going to Starbucks once they started race hustling and generally butting their nose into politics during the Ferguson and Florida incidents. That was a decision independent of anything that I heard from anyone. All I needed to see was their action.
Starbucks have been like this for years. I remember back when I really started hanging inside Starbucks was about the time when Obama was running for office the first time. I was going to San Francisco State at that time and I would hang out in Starbucks studying for hours. The people working there were constantly talking politics out loud with each other between where they are making the drinks and the registers.

None stop about if the republicans won, they'd round up all the homosexuals and kill them. I never cared since it obviously was so ridiculous . Never the less, that's all the workers were talking about for like the last two months leading up to the election.

As for me, yeah, I've finally had it with this Moby-Dick character coffee shop. I should have been over with it years ago though. On average I've been spending $75.00 a week at Starbucks. Yeah, it was like a bad drug habit for me. But I've been clean and sober now for the past three weeks. By chance, it wasn't this issue with the two guys getting escorted out of Starbucks by PD that got me to stop. I was just burned out with the entire Starbucks scene, waiting forever behind mobile orders, laptops and similar electronics being stolen, droves of homeless people endlessly loitering around the premise, bathrooms being crapped out constantly, the list goes on. Right before that incident with PD, I'd walk up to a Starbucks and get this lump in my gut, turn around, walk away and feel so much better.
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Old 04-23-2018, 02:30 PM
 
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This was a scripted stunt. The real racists are the Starbucks managers who infantilize blacks and expect them to act and respond like children, thus assuming they have no agency.

This has nothing to do with race, but the forces behind it are attacking property rights and using race as a cudgel. Americans have grown to treat blacks like complete children.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TXQUAeGSVNU
That guy for the free black reparation coffee should have asked her for some reparation sex too. She was kissing that arse so bad, I'm sure she would have said "Well........OK" as well.
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Old 04-23-2018, 02:55 PM
 
Location: East of the Burgh.
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Data are manipulated every which way every single day.
The places I have gotten stats from are legitimate. FBI data base for one. What other excuses do you have?
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Old 04-23-2018, 08:07 PM
Status: "We need America back!" (set 1 day ago)
 
Location: Suburban Dallas
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Conscious inclusion ... racial bias education ..

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Starbucks is closing all its stores nationwide on May 29 after an incident in which two black men were arrested at a Philadelphia location.

The coffee giant on Tuesday announced plans to close all US stores for the afternoon of May 29. Starbucks said in a statement it plans to "conduct racial-bias education geared toward preventing discrimination in our stores."

"The training will be provided to nearly 175,000 partners (employees) across the country, and will become part of the onboarding process for new partners," Starbucks said in a statement.

The training will cover topics such as "implicit bias" and "conscious inclusion."

Starbucks stores are closed on May 29 - Business Insider
It's basically a stupid, frivolous waste of time. It will cost them sales for an entire day. I like Starbucks coffee as much as anyone, but this bit of looney-tunes leftism is getting way out of hand.
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Old 04-23-2018, 08:09 PM
 
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It's basically a stupid, frivolous waste of time. It will cost them sales for an entire day. I like Starbucks coffee as much as anyone, but this bit of looney-tunes leftism is getting way out of hand.
I think it is half a day right?

And they close for half a day frequently to train for new product placement etc.

It's a marketing ploy.

They can afford it.

don't you be worrying about them Starbucks -- people pay big bucks for those three shot, double hit, non-fat steamed -- no froth double whatever....things.
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Old 04-24-2018, 06:26 AM
 
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Any time anyone offers anything for free trouble follows. All customers should have to buy something, then there would be no problem with the bathroom. You can't have it both ways, this "open" space that is also a corporation either exists for profit or it serves as a free community center. There needs to be a clear definition, and employees are annoyed that the rules are not always clear to them or that the founders vision is inconsistent depending on the location.

I think Starbucks is just a corporation like any other and they should accept that. Or open the floodgates and make that third space available to everyone, the liberal utopian dream. See how that goes.

You have to wonder if Schultz lives in such a bubble he didn't think opening up his business as some kind of free space would attract parasites and low lives as well as hipsters with laptops. Maybe he thought only the right kind of people would go there.
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