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Old 04-18-2018, 09:36 AM
 
Location: San Diego
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Not in the summer, I work 10 miles from my apartment. Round tripping 20 miles by bicycle is not only impractical, but would burn so many calories that you would have to up your food budget to not be a skeleton after a year
Try an electric assist bike. You can either peddle or choose not to.
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Old 04-18-2018, 09:53 AM
 
Location: Live:Downtown Phoenix, AZ/Work:Greater Los Angeles, CA
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Try an electric assist bike. You can either peddle or choose not to.
Looked into a motorized bicycle, and would have been at least a $1k outlay, $500 for a decent bike, $500 for the engine assembly, and then the labor for a shop to put it together for you (no one sells an assembled motorized bike, there might be a law against it or something). Instead I just used the $500 I had in savings at the time as a down payment on a used car; much easier
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Old 04-18-2018, 02:43 PM
 
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Anyone ever actually budget the difference in price? Fuel prices are not even close to most people's biggest budget eater.
I’m not gonna wait until it’s 4 bucks a gallon before I notice.
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“Gas prices have nothing to do with supply and demand”

lmao

I’m glad I put desertdestroyer on my ignore list, but thanks to the person who quoted him to confirm my decision.
You put me on ignore because I routinely embarrassed you.
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I went carless for 5 years using my bicycle. Phoenix is perfect for commuting by bike.
Dude, I grew up in Scottsdale...I rode bikes in that city all my life as a kid. We used to ride out to Chandler and Gilbert when it was all horse ranches. Kids can do stupid things because they have energy and youth on their side when the temps reach 110.

But I wouldn’t go anywhere near a bicycle in Phoenix anymore. Not as an adult. It’ll KILL you by noontime. Not to mention that I don’t think the Valley is nearly as bicycle friendly as you make it out to be. The Valley ain’t exactly Portland. It’s teeming with cars nowadays vs when I grew up...and the driving up there isn’t exactly world class.
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Not in the summer, I work 10 miles from my apartment. Round tripping 20 miles by bicycle is not only impractical, but would burn so many calories that you would have to up your food budget to not be a skeleton after a year
No way in hell that I’d ride a bike in the Valley in the Summer unless it’s at 4 in the morning. When I was at ASU, just riding around campus in Spring and Fall used to nearly kill me at the near noon temps.
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Old 04-18-2018, 06:02 PM
 
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Obama promised energy costs would skyrocket under his energy plan. Obama obviously thought he could control prices. Obama's energy czar told us our gasoline prices would need to be raised to the level of Europe's.


Obama's fault was his promise.
That SOB did a number on us.
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Old 04-18-2018, 06:03 PM
 
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“Gas prices have nothing to do with supply and demand”

lmao

I’m glad I put desertdestroyer on my ignore list, but thanks to the person who quoted him to confirm my decision.
It's rigged to go up and screw us.
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Old 04-18-2018, 06:04 PM
 
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Not in the summer, I work 10 miles from my apartment. Round tripping 20 miles by bicycle is not only impractical, but would burn so many calories that you would have to up your food budget to not be a skeleton after a year
Good way to get killed in the Tampa area. Lots of deaths here riding on a bike mike.
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Old 04-19-2018, 02:39 PM
 
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It's rigged to go up and screw us.
Of course it is. Yet, people still think that stuff is sold on pure economics 101 principles. That’s been proven to be bunk decades ago.
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Old 04-19-2018, 02:53 PM
 
Location: DFW
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Has anyone priced the cost of Lunch lately?

It's gone up higher than a gallon of gas.
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Old 04-19-2018, 02:53 PM
 
Location: Morrison, CO
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It is a seasonal increase, as well as demand due to a good economy. In addition, there are some instability in a few oil producing countries which giver markets the jitters. The Trump policies are to maximize domestic energy supply, which can only suppress energy prices but can only do so much. This article addresses most of the reasons.

https://www.forbes.com/sites/davidbl.../#143de182a6bd
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Old 04-19-2018, 03:22 PM
 
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I remember the fear mongers claiming it was going to go up to $7 a gallon under Bush. Yet never happened. The president doesn't have much control over the laws of supply and demand.
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