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wrong. this was after-hours twitter blather and had zilch to do with teaching.
Which was exactly my point.
If that professor had gone on an after-hours Twitter tirade that parroted MAGA talking points, I would still be saying that tenure was designed to protect that professor's job, too.
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If that professor had gone on an after-hours Twitter tirade that parroted MAGA talking points, I would still be saying that tenure was designed to protect that professor's job, too.
Suppose that professor weren't merely parroting MAGA talking points, but hoped Barak Obama and all of his family would die, while linking himself to the university? How secure do you think his continuing employment with that university or his future employability at any other university would be?
Suppose that professor weren't merely parroting MAGA talking points, but hoped all of Barak Obama's family would die, while linking himself to the university? How secure do you think his continuing employment with that university or his future employability at any other university would be?
If, for example, someone in Mr. Obama's family had passed away and this professor indicated that they were glad because this person was a racist or something, yes... I would think it was disrespectful, but I would agree that tenure was the reason that this person still had a job.
That would be the apples to apples sort of comparison you were searching for.
And, while I could see why tenure kept that person's job, I could make no guarantees re: future jobs (note: tenured professors do not usually give up tenure and switch jobs), but I could say the same about this Fresno State professor. She won't switch jobs here in the US. She has tenure, why should she?
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If, for example, someone in Mr. Obama's family had passed away and this professor indicated that they were glad because this person was a racist or something, yes... I would think it was disrespectful, but I would agree that tenure was the reason that this person still had a job.
That would be the apples to apples sort of comparison you were searching for.
And, while I could see why tenure kept that person's job, I could make no guarantees re: future jobs (note: tenured professors do not usually give up tenure and switch jobs), but I could say the same about this Fresno State professor. She won't switch jobs here in the US. She has tenure, why should she?
Don't restate my question with her milder rhetoric and then answer it. How about answering the actual question I asked: Do you think a professor who openly looked forward to ALL of Obama's family dying would still have a job by the end of the week? What about a professor who openly called for throwing grenades into a private citizen's home?
Not seeing the issue. Who cares what one woman on social media has to say? So, she didn't like Barbara Bush. Eh. I'm sure Barbara Bush had people she didn't like much, either. Trump comes to mind.
Okay. How about tweeting that if people have complaints they should call the number she provided which was actually to a mental health hotline?
this nasty woman shouldn't be fired. I agree with her employer's statement and stand that no action by the school should be or will be taken against her about Barbara bush as the woman has free speech. but, her encouraging others to spam a crisis/suicide help line really should be punished. her stunt effectively shut down this service for two days due to dozens of spam phone calls an hour.
Freedom of speech and she did it on her own online account off hours!
Funny though that the above reasons would be the exact same ones used by her haters on here, if some teacher or professor went on a diatribe against Hillary Clinton or some other liberal figure, or some hateful messages against a black teenager who was killed by cops.
Can't have it both ways now, can we folks?
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