Welcome to City-Data.com Forum!
U.S. CitiesCity-Data Forum Index
Go Back   City-Data Forum > General Forums > Politics and Other Controversies
 [Register]
Please register to participate in our discussions with 2 million other members - it's free and quick! Some forums can only be seen by registered members. After you create your account, you'll be able to customize options and access all our 15,000 new posts/day with fewer ads.
View detailed profile (Advanced) or search
site with Google Custom Search

Search Forums  (Advanced)
Reply Start New Thread
 
Old 04-13-2018, 12:26 PM
 
1,378 posts, read 1,392,879 times
Reputation: 1141

Advertisements

Yeah, that's right, the USA's so-called "ally" against the threat of Iran. All US Presidents (of both parties) since FDR have cozied up to them to one extent or another, especially the Bushes but also Carter, Reagan, Clinton, and Obama.

And now President Trump and Jared Kushner have doubled down on supporting the Saudis, and are all buddy-buddy with the Saudi Crown Prince and the Crown Prince of Abu Dhabi (in the United Arab Emirates, which has long served as yet another source of money and terrorist operatives for al-Qaeda and similar jihadist groups).

The Saudis and the other authoritarian, Wahhabist-Sunni or Wahhabi-influenced Gulf monarchies have an army of powerful public relations people and lobbyists in DC and the US (including many ex-US government officials and other political elites - again, of both parties) - rivaling that of Israel, in fact (whom have increasingly seen the Saudis as an ally against Iran - the enemy of my enemy is my "friend", I guess, and they're both allies of the US. Go figure. ). And of course there's the military partnerships (arms deals) and of course, the oil.

If Trump or any other President were actually serious about combating "radical Islam", they would immediately move to cut off the terrorist-supporting Saudis - the ideological and financial Head of the al-Qaeda/ISIS Snake. But it's almost as if the US's government's geopolitical agenda is about cozying up to extremist dictators and other glorified thugs in exchange for oil and foreign investment within the US.

What a sick joke.
Reply With Quote Quick reply to this message

 
Old 04-13-2018, 12:27 PM
 
Location: Philadelphia
11,998 posts, read 12,943,060 times
Reputation: 8365
Media manipulation and Government propaganda
Reply With Quote Quick reply to this message
 
Old 04-13-2018, 12:36 PM
 
1,378 posts, read 1,392,879 times
Reputation: 1141
Quote:
Originally Posted by 2e1m5a View Post
Media manipulation and Government propaganda
Can't argue with you there...
Reply With Quote Quick reply to this message
 
Old 04-13-2018, 12:44 PM
 
1,378 posts, read 1,392,879 times
Reputation: 1141
Come on, anyone else?
Reply With Quote Quick reply to this message
 
Old 04-13-2018, 12:53 PM
 
4,418 posts, read 2,948,107 times
Reputation: 6068
Because the Saudi govt wasn't responsible, just some Saudi citizens. The govt allows a lot of the powerful extremist clerics to exist to keep peace there with the govt. The Clerics are powerful and could cause uprisings, so they let them do what they want. You either have to rule with an iron fist like Saddam, or work with them to keep them happy.

And America and Iraq is primarily responsible for ISIS. ISIS formed after we overthrew Saddam and there was a power vacuum and we exiled all of Saddams experienced war generals and soldiers. Then the new Iraqi army basically gave up and ISIS took all of the tanks, guns, etc. It all started with America.

Also, we are not trying to go to war with Iran. WE just don't want them to have nukes. And their govt used to publicly put down the US, but the citizens mostly like us.

You don't have your information straight.
Reply With Quote Quick reply to this message
 
Old 04-13-2018, 01:58 PM
 
Location: Manchester NH
15,507 posts, read 6,438,068 times
Reputation: 4831
Quote:
Originally Posted by Berteau View Post
Because the Saudi govt wasn't responsible, just some Saudi citizens. The govt allows a lot of the powerful extremist clerics to exist to keep peace there with the govt. The Clerics are powerful and could cause uprisings, so they let them do what they want. You either have to rule with an iron fist like Saddam, or work with them to keep them happy.

And America and Iraq is primarily responsible for ISIS. ISIS formed after we overthrew Saddam and there was a power vacuum and we exiled all of Saddams experienced war generals and soldiers. Then the new Iraqi army basically gave up and ISIS took all of the tanks, guns, etc. It all started with America.

Also, we are not trying to go to war with Iran. WE just don't want them to have nukes. And their govt used to publicly put down the US, but the citizens mostly like us.

You don't have your information straight.
What evidence do you have that Iran wants a nuke. Not what you want to believe but what you know.
Reply With Quote Quick reply to this message
 
Old 04-13-2018, 03:44 PM
 
4,418 posts, read 2,948,107 times
Reputation: 6068
Quote:
Originally Posted by Winterfall8324 View Post
What evidence do you have that Iran wants a nuke. Not what you want to believe but what you know.
Why would "I want to believe" Iran is trying to get nukes?

You are clearly clueless and clearly don't follow the news, yet you are posting on political issues. The world spent the last 4 years negotiating with Iran for "the nuke deal" and now trump is talking about tearing it up. I has been covered in the news for the past 4 years.

Google "Iran nuke deal" and educate yourself.
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Iran...deal_framework
Reply With Quote Quick reply to this message
 
Old 04-13-2018, 03:46 PM
 
Location: SC
8,793 posts, read 8,169,514 times
Reputation: 12992
Oil! Another good reason to convert from ICE to Electric cars ASAP.
Reply With Quote Quick reply to this message
 
Old 04-13-2018, 03:49 PM
 
Location: southern california
61,288 posts, read 87,449,435 times
Reputation: 55563
Nuke program and threats to israel
Reply With Quote Quick reply to this message
 
Old 04-13-2018, 03:53 PM
 
Location: By the sea, by the sea, by the beautiful sea
68,330 posts, read 54,419,437 times
Reputation: 40736
Quote:
Originally Posted by AllenSJC View Post
Can't argue with you there...

Well, for the Israel can do no wrong crowd, Bibi's been beating the war drums claiming Iran was months away from nukes for many years now. As far as Saudi Arabia goes, being the good customers of the MIC that they are make it unlikely the government wants to derail that gravy train.
Reply With Quote Quick reply to this message
Please register to post and access all features of our very popular forum. It is free and quick. Over $68,000 in prizes has already been given out to active posters on our forum. Additional giveaways are planned.

Detailed information about all U.S. cities, counties, and zip codes on our site: City-data.com.


Reply
Please update this thread with any new information or opinions. This open thread is still read by thousands of people, so we encourage all additional points of view.

Quick Reply
Message:


Over $104,000 in prizes was already given out to active posters on our forum and additional giveaways are planned!

Go Back   City-Data Forum > General Forums > Politics and Other Controversies
Similar Threads

All times are GMT -6. The time now is 04:57 AM.

© 2005-2024, Advameg, Inc. · Please obey Forum Rules · Terms of Use and Privacy Policy · Bug Bounty

City-Data.com - Contact Us - Archive 1, 2, 3, 4, 5, 6, 7, 8, 9, 10, 11, 12, 13, 14, 15, 16, 17, 18, 19, 20, 21, 22, 23, 24, 25, 26, 27, 28, 29, 30, 31, 32, 33, 34, 35, 36, 37 - Top