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Old 04-19-2018, 02:52 PM
 
Location: Santa Monica
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I'll have to look into this one. I'm sure I'll need a drink or two to get through it.

 
Old 04-19-2018, 02:59 PM
 
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This white guy had no sympathy for Koresch and his adult followers. However there were children held there as well who were killed in the attack. The authorities at the time knew there were children inside the compound.
Which later was the motivation for the Oklahoma City bombing.
 
Old 04-19-2018, 03:25 PM
 
Location: Denver, CO
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How about the cult itself?
Everyone except those who were prevented from leaving. Although the ATF/FBI could've prevented this from ever happening in the first place.
 
Old 04-19-2018, 05:08 PM
 
Location: Madison, WI
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I think the people defending the killings need to watch some documentaries or listen to some podcasts on the event. It was insanely evil, with many cover-ups and corruption involved.

Here's a start...


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Xr9pQ1pIbiU


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=N6Lx6zASfJg&t=92s
 
Old 04-19-2018, 05:21 PM
 
Location: Texas
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Couldnt have arrested him when he came into town?
 
Old 04-20-2018, 06:39 AM
 
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I think the people defending the killings need to watch some documentaries or listen to some podcasts on the event. It was insanely evil, with many cover-ups and corruption involved.

Here's a start...


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Xr9pQ1pIbiU


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=N6Lx6zASfJg&t=92s
Exactly. People who blame the women and kids as deserving it are insane.

They attacked the house with military tanks, poked holes through a concrete wall sprayed gas DIRECTLY on the women and children they KNEW were in that specific protected room. Govt killed them.

Govt knew exactly what it was doing. Who would feel comfortable exiting a home when all you outside see are tanks, hundreds of guns in swat gear and hundreds of guns pointed directly at them? When you knwo they have been shooting at you from helicopters? When they've been using psych warfare, playing the screams of animals being slaughtered all night at high decibels?

I only hope that the people defending it are ignorant. To have such support for killing -- and that's what it was a homicide, according the FBI forensic photographer -- is depravity at a very very evil level.

Here's another video that is about 90% clips from WACO and congressional hearings, as well as phone calls to 911 and between Koresh and the negotiators.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7y5e9CZeoBg
 
Old 04-20-2018, 06:39 AM
 
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I understand exactly what happened. LEO showed up with lawful orders to arrest Koresh. Koresh and his followers refused to allow the arrest to happen. If it took tanks to enforce the rule of law, so be it.

Have the cops ever waited outside a black man's house for days instead of busting in immediately and doing their jobs?
You do realize this is America...right?!

I cannot believe so many people think this way, its almost like they would be much happier living in a total dictatorship or a monarchy type of govt.
 
Old 04-20-2018, 08:58 AM
 
Location: North America
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Actually Bill Clinton and Janet Reno were those on the very top calling the shots. If you're going to blame anyone for another groups bad behavior, blame them.


No, I blame Koresh and the ATF. Koresh wanted to die, ATF gave him the ammo to do it.
 
Old 04-20-2018, 10:44 AM
 
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Hey, as long as you're only doing it to yourselves, no problemmo but........

U.S. secretly tested carcinogen in Western Canada during the Cold War, researcher finds | National Post
 
Old 04-20-2018, 11:56 AM
 
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No, I blame Koresh and the ATF. Koresh wanted to die, ATF gave him the ammo to do it.
ATF are federal agents/employees and take their orders from the top. Once Koresh and his cult killed the federal agents, the Federal government got involved. At a later date after those Federal agents had been killed, Clinton and Reno gave the all clear orders to go in and take Koresh and his cult out, which was the final raid on the compound.
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