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If I recall he never left the compound during the 51 day standoff.
Interestingly, the whole thing seems to have begun with a UPS driver informing the local sheriff the compound had been receiving tons of weapons and grenades.
Oh no. He left.
He jogged in front of the FBI's undercover house for two weeks straight at one point.
Your post indicates that you don't really have any knowledge of what happened or the events surrounding it.
Since when is it OK for the US govt to use military tanks to run over private citizens' home that has women and children in it, and gas them to death and set the house on fire?
You REALLY think that is acceptable? You want that happening in your neighborhood?
How old were you when this happened? Just curious.
I watched it unfold on live tv. They were negotiating with the cult for days, perhaps weeks before the climax of events took place. When the shooting started from within, no one on the outside knew how many were shooting out, who exactly was shooting out, etc. etc. Lots of unknowns. The armored vehicles were being utilized to breach the structure only. The fire was not intentional, but resulted from the teargas that was used in an attempt to temporarily subdue the occupants. At the time this all was going down, it was unclear if the teargas canisters were the actual source of the fire or if the fire was set intentional by the occupants, as if they were doing a Jim Jones type of deal.
You may look at Shaver the same way you look at Stephon Clark or any of the hundreds of other black men who have been killed by police. I don't know. But plenty of people don't.
I think the police acted terribly with regard to Waco, Ruby Ridge, Stephon Clark, Sandra Bland, Eric Garner, and every other person they've ever killed who did not present an immediate threat.
But next time an black person who presents no threat to police is killed, people will be saying that all he had to do was cooperate and say, "yes sir" and everything would have been fine.
Vicki Weaver was standing behind a door holding their 10 month-old daughter when she was shot and killed.
Wanna try justifying that???
She was behind the door. The shooter never saw her or her child, and had no reason to know she was there. He was shooting at an armed man who had just threatened a helicopter with his firearm. The bullet passed through this combatant, through the door, and killed Vicki Weaver.
No, I’m not saying the cops should have just left. But they should not have attacked with tanks and chemical gas a building they knew to contain children.
David Koresh was a lunatic who used his followers like human shields. The state could have handled it better, but to make Koresh a martyr is an insult and disgrace to all genuine martyrs.
If I recall he never left the compound during the 51 day standoff.
Interestingly, the whole thing seems to have begun with a UPS driver informing the local sheriff the compound had been receiving tons of weapons and grenades.
But he left frequently BEFORE the standoff. He regularly jogged in town, alone. He could have, and SHOULD HAVE, been apprehended easily & without major incident on one of these trips. Why the ATF chose not to take that route is beyond me.
How old were you when this happened? Just curious.
I watched it unfold on live tv. They were negotiating with the cult for days, perhaps weeks before the climax of events took place. When the shooting started from within, no one on the outside knew how many were shooting out, who exactly was shooting out, etc. etc. Lots of unknowns. The armored vehicles were being utilized to breach the structure only. The fire was not intentional, but resulted from the teargas that was used in an attempt to temporarily subdue the occupants. At the time this all was going down, it was unclear if the teargas canisters were the actual source of the fire or if the fire was set intentional by the occupants, as if they were doing a Jim Jones type of deal.
It's widely accepted that there were three separate fires, and that they were most likely started intentional by those inside.
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