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Old 04-20-2018, 09:45 AM
 
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Old 04-20-2018, 10:00 AM
 
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Old 04-20-2018, 10:10 AM
 
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I would imagine you could say that about a lot of lawyers including Bill Clinton, Hillary Clinton and Barack Obama.

Not everyone with a law license has clients.
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Old 04-20-2018, 10:11 AM
 
Location: Southeastern North Carolina
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Guiliani must be senile to have made this claim:



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Old 04-20-2018, 10:39 AM
 
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And so what?
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Yea I don't get it. Mueller is a Republican, why would he give a crap?
You have to understand that there was never any Russian collusion.

Mueller was brought in to find something, anything on Trump to have leverage on him, and control him to protect the status quo.

It sure looks like Mueller failed to find anything on Trump, and now the clock is running out, it's quite likely that Session is now the one with all the leverage. Mueller is now forced to abandon the witch hunt, and work to save those in the cross hairs of Sessions.


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Negotiate? What's to negotiate?
Read my reply above.

Mueller is going to negotiate a exit, and to protect those that could be facing indictments.

Simply put, end the witch hunt, or people in the swamp start getting indicted. Mueller can't let that happen.

It appears to be time for both sides to put their cards on the table, and see who has what, and cut a deal from there.
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Old 04-20-2018, 11:28 AM
 
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You have to understand that there was never any Russian collusion.

Mueller was brought in to find something, anything on Trump to have leverage on him, and control him to protect the status quo.

It sure looks like Mueller failed to find anything on Trump, and now the clock is running out, it's quite likely that Session is now the one with all the leverage. Mueller is now forced to abandon the witch hunt, and work to save those in the cross hairs of Sessions.

Read my reply above.

Mueller is going to negotiate a exit, and to protect those that could be facing indictments.

Simply put, end the witch hunt, or people in the swamp start getting indicted. Mueller can't let that happen.

It appears to be time for both sides to put their cards on the table, and see who has what, and cut a deal from there.
I agree there was no Russian collusion. At the most you have a president and is family naive to the game of politics in Washington who made mistakes based on the false assumption that what is ok in the private sector is ok in the political world.

However I disagree that time is running out on Mueller. There is no time clock on IC's. He does not have to put his cards on the table or negotiate anything. Its fantasy-land to think that is the case. The Clinton IC took 4 years. I personally believe if you are going to have an IC it should be very limited in scope done within a predetermined time frame. If the GOP want to make it this way they should change the law. But just like the dems and the EC there is a lot of talk but no action.

This whole thing could go on for 3 or 4 more years. Sit down grab some popcorn and enjoy the show.
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Old 04-20-2018, 12:15 PM
 
Location: Los Angeles
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You have to understand that there was never any Russian collusion.

Mueller was brought in to find something, anything on Trump to have leverage on him, and control him to protect the status quo.

It sure looks like Mueller failed to find anything on Trump, and now the clock is running out, it's quite likely that Session is now the one with all the leverage. Mueller is now forced to abandon the witch hunt, and work to save those in the cross hairs of Sessions.

Mueller is going to negotiate a exit, and to protect those that could be facing indictments.

Simply put, end the witch hunt, or people in the swamp start getting indicted. Mueller can't let that happen.

It appears to be time for both sides to put their cards on the table, and see who has what, and cut a deal from there.
Nailed it!

At this point with the memos being released and proving the claims made by the press and DoJ hacks were outright lies. Once again proving Trump was right.

I wonder how long it'll be before the left openly hate Comey again. First he was a traitor, then he was a great man... both ends of the scale without so much as a thought to how constantly hypocritical they are being.

Now Comey is backing off and turning on McCabe, McCabe is turning on Comey, McCabe is going to sue for defamation of character (ROFL), referrals for indictments are raining down from the heavens.

It's going to be a GREAT summer filled with corrupt players scrambling to make deals with the states attorneys. This will make Watergate look like a high school prank.

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This whole thing could go on for 3 or 4 more years. Sit down grab some popcorn and enjoy the show.
Oh, it'll go on for years... but it won't be Mueller's investigation. I'll bet hard cash he will be done by the end of the year, if not sooner.
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Old 04-20-2018, 12:35 PM
 
Location: Denver CO
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Is it bedtime already? It must be with all the fairy tales now being told.
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Old 04-20-2018, 12:36 PM
 
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I agree there was no Russian collusion. At the most you have a president and is family naive to the game of politics in Washington who made mistakes based on the false assumption that what is ok in the private sector is ok in the political world.

However I disagree that time is running out on Mueller. There is no time clock on IC's. He does not have to put his cards on the table or negotiate anything. Its fantasy-land to think that is the case. The Clinton IC took 4 years. I personally believe if you are going to have an IC it should be very limited in scope done within a predetermined time frame. If the GOP want to make it this way they should change the law. But just like the dems and the EC there is a lot of talk but no action.

This whole thing could go on for 3 or 4 more years. Sit down grab some popcorn and enjoy the show.
Trump and is family are grifters and there is enough documented factual history to prove this.
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Old 04-20-2018, 12:57 PM
 
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I agree there was no Russian collusion. At the most you have a president and is family naive to the game of politics in Washington who made mistakes based on the false assumption that what is ok in the private sector is ok in the political world.

However I disagree that time is running out on Mueller. There is no time clock on IC's. He does not have to put his cards on the table or negotiate anything. Its fantasy-land to think that is the case. The Clinton IC took 4 years. I personally believe if you are going to have an IC it should be very limited in scope done within a predetermined time frame. If the GOP want to make it this way they should change the law. But just like the dems and the EC there is a lot of talk but no action.

This whole thing could go on for 3 or 4 more years. Sit down grab some popcorn and enjoy the show.
I completely agree with you that Mueller intended to run his investigation for quite a long time, years if need be. He isn't going to stop until he either finds something on Trump, or he is forced to stop.

If it's true that there are things on Weiner's laptop that compromise Hillary, and that indictments of high ranking officials in the FBI/DOJ are forthcoming, then yes, Giuliani can force Mueller to negotiate an end of his investigation.

It's hard to know how all of this will play out, but the people in Sessions' cross hairs are sweating, you can see it as they start to point fingers at each other.
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