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Old 04-24-2018, 08:25 AM
 
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Exactly, Trump knows where the illegal immigrants are, and it is HIS JOB to find them, but he's just too STUPID to actually catch them.

And instead of saying, "Hey, guys, I suck at my job." He points the fingers at cities, who are not responsible for immigration, period. And people here eat it up.

Another false and lame argument. Illegal aliens are all over our country. Any talk of rounding them all up en masse the race/Nazi card is pulled by the pro-illegals. There is no better way of ridding our country of them than cooperation by our states and cities by notifying the feds when they have known illegal aliens in their custody. That's not doing the feds job it's cooperating with them.
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Old 04-25-2018, 11:19 AM
 
Location: Twin Falls Idaho
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Perhaps the feds shouldn’t cooperate with local police on crime either?

That seems like a great system of law enforcement to me.
In fact, for the most part, this is how it works. The Feds don't investigate murders...except in their jurisdiction...the Feds don't concern themselves with street crime. There is no law that states that they have to do squat outside of their jurisdiction...and they don't.

In fact, most local jurisdictions will tell you that cooperation with Federal authorities is very much a one-way street. The local authorities give..and the Fed takes.

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Old 04-25-2018, 11:25 AM
 
Location: Twin Falls Idaho
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Last I heard, we were the United States of America. Trump is trying to do his job and some cities/states are impeding his efforts. That's what this is about. It is not what you make it out to be. Are you an American or illegal? If your argument is that Trump should follow the law - then why shouldn't everyone?
Everyone should...you seem unable to grasp that there is no law..that mandates the States to enforce Federal law..or for them to house Federal prisoners in State jails. There is not a law on the books that says that the States have to notify the Feds when they release a prisoner...it's a courtesy--nothing more.

As far as Trump 'enforcing the law', he's not trying too hard, now is he?

A lot of hot air..and very little results.
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Old 04-25-2018, 11:27 AM
 
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Who's asking the states to deport anyone? They don't even have the authority to do so. All this administration is doing is asking states and cities to cooperate with the feds not aid abet illegal aliens by protecting them.
Just make a stinkin' phone call to ICE before releasing a criminal!
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Old 04-25-2018, 11:29 AM
 
Location: Twin Falls Idaho
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Why do you liberals continue with this stupid argument? All the feds are asking is for the cities and states to hold known illegal aliens (especially if they are criminals) in custody and call them to come and pick them up rather than releasing them back into our society.
***Talking slow***
It is not the States job. They get to choose whether they wish to extend this courtesy to the Federal authorities or not.

You are correct..this is what the Feds are asking--The States have every legal right to say no.

BTW..this is not a 'liberal' argument..but a simple statement of legal fact.
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Old 04-25-2018, 11:37 AM
 
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Just make a stinkin' phone call to ICE before releasing a criminal!
Which would accomplish what? Tell the city to hold them for you? Under what justification? A state can't just hold someone. For the feds to come get them? Where are they going to put them? They get a hearing and get out. They go back to their job. Maybe they show up to the hearing at some far away point. So they get deported. Then what? They simply come back and go back to their job.

I asked this before and it wasn't addressed. What is the point?
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Old 04-25-2018, 12:02 PM
 
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***Talking slow***
It is not the States job. They get to choose whether they wish to extend this courtesy to the Federal authorities or not.

You are correct..this is what the Feds are asking--The States have every legal right to say no.

BTW..this is not a 'liberal' argument..but a simple statement of legal fact.
Actually, the preservation of State's rights its really a conservative position. But low-information thinkers are more focused on outcome-based political views, so whatever...
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Old 04-25-2018, 12:04 PM
 
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Which would accomplish what? Tell the city to hold them for you? Under what justification? A state can't just hold someone. For the feds to come get them? Where are they going to put them? They get a hearing and get out. They go back to their job. Maybe they show up to the hearing at some far away point. So they get deported. Then what? They simply come back and go back to their job.

I asked this before and it wasn't addressed. What is the point?
The Massachusetts Supreme Court has already ruled that holding prisoners as a courtesy to ICE even 1 day beyond their detention time is unconstitutional under State law.
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Old 04-25-2018, 12:11 PM
 
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The Massachusetts Supreme Court has already ruled that holding prisoners as a courtesy to ICE even 1 day beyond their detention time is unconstitutional under State law.
I don't disagree, I'm trying to figure out the point.
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Old 04-25-2018, 12:34 PM
 
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I don't disagree, I'm trying to figure out the point.
I was agreeing with you.
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