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Old 04-20-2018, 07:25 AM
 
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Europeans remain welcoming to immigrants

https://www.economist.com/blogs/grap...antsdailychart

...the results of a recent Eurobarometer survey suggests that in practice, Europeans’ views of migrants are still relatively positive. This is particularly true if they live in a country which actually hosts significant numbers of immigrants.

Interesting survey results.......
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Old 04-20-2018, 07:30 AM
 
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The US is too if they are legal and productive.
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Old 04-20-2018, 07:32 AM
 
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hmmm. and then there's this.

An average of 55 per cent of people across the 10 European countries surveyed wanted to stop all future immigration from mainly Muslim countries.
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Old 04-20-2018, 07:35 AM
 
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I think this is universal. Opposition to immigration is strongest among those people that are least affected by it. In this country the strongest opposition to immigration comes from people who live in the areas with the least immigrants. The fear of immigrants is strongest among people with the least contact with them. Those areas where people have daily contact with them tend to be more accepting.
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Old 04-20-2018, 07:35 AM
 
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Europe is desperate for an infusion of new taxpayers.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ageing_of_Europe
The ageing of Europe, also known as the greying of Europe, is a demographic phenomenon in Europe characterized by a decrease in fertility, a decrease in mortality rate, and a higher life expectancy among European populations.

Low birth rates and higher life expectancy contribute to the transformation of Europe's population pyramid shape. The most significant change will be the transition towards a much older population structure, resulting in a decrease in the proportion of the working age while the number of the retired population increases.

The total number of the older population is projected to increase greatly within the coming decades, with rising proportions of the post-war baby-boom generations reaching retirement. This will cause a high burden on the working age population as they provide for the increase number of the older population.
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Old 04-20-2018, 08:00 AM
 
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The "Economist" is known for its libertarian views, foremost of which is unfettered free trade: free trade in goods, services, capital and people.
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Old 04-20-2018, 08:03 AM
 
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Europeans remain welcoming to immigrants

https://www.economist.com/blogs/grap...antsdailychart

...the results of a recent Eurobarometer survey suggests that in practice, Europeans’ views of migrants are still relatively positive. This is particularly true if they live in a country which actually hosts significant numbers of immigrants.

Interesting survey results.......
my experience is that the word "immigrant" conjures up different images depending on whom and where you are asking. a bulgarian, for example, is going to think of that word a lot differently than a dutch person. in other words, if your immigrants are mostly muslims and africans, and you have a history of being invaded by arabs, that's probably going to make you think differently than if most of your immigrants are coming from France or Germany.

if they asked more specific questions it would probably yield more insightful results

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Old 04-20-2018, 08:06 AM
 
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bunch of masochists over there...must like getting stabbed
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Old 04-20-2018, 08:07 AM
 
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The "Economist" is known for its libertarian views, foremost of which is unfettered free trade: free trade in goods, services, capital and people.
i've been reading it for years and wouldn't characterize it that way.

"libertarian" is an American word and has connotations to the American right-wing

and their views on immigration in particular seem to be in-line with mainstream economists.
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Old 04-20-2018, 08:26 AM
 
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I think this is universal. Opposition to immigration is strongest among those people that are least affected by it. In this country the strongest opposition to immigration comes from people who live in the areas with the least immigrants. The fear of immigrants is strongest among people with the least contact with them. Those areas where people have daily contact with them tend to be more accepting.
This ^^^. Plus, different measures in the two polls with one focusing on hypothetical social relations with an immigrant the other on future immigration. The recent surge imposes real economic costs on host countries with a need for integration (if only vocational). That's a valid concern.

Still ... there's a trend with countries towards the west more open to immigrants than those in Eastern Europe. Not entirely sure why that is. Maybe centuries of rule by "the Turk" in places like Bulgaria that tie into the greater religiosity in those areas of Europe?

Lots of variables ...
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