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actually guns are based off production needs. if a gun manufacturer were actually capable, and they produced lets say 20 million guns in one year, but they only sold 100,000, then their manufacturing capacity is rather excessive. so they only produce teh number of guns they can actually sell in a years time.
as for capitalism providing mental institutions, once again if there was a market for these institutions, thenn you can bet they would be popping up all over the place.
The free market is the problem. Gun producers look for demand to fit their supply. If they had no profit motive there would be no need to promote a gun culture.
Mental institutions had a market in the 50s based off of profit and the service didn’t fit the need as lower costs and maximizing costumer reach was the main goal.
My nine year old daughter has full access to all my weapons full auto and otherwise. She doesn’t mess with them. Why? Because I took the mystery out of them. She knows how they function and how to operate them, thus she has no interest in exploring those forbidden items.
Sorry but I think it's wrong for such a young child to have access to your weapons. How many times have we heard parents of shooters saying they had no idea that their child would do such a thing because they didn't see any signs. Better safe than sorry.
If they were, it wouldn't be a felony to own an unregistered newly manufactured full auto.
Yes they are. They are produced based off of market demand which is manipulated by marketing, geopolitics, and supply.
As a profit based production model gun sellers need a demand for their supply. If production was based off of production needs the culture and user-ship of guns would be different.
The free market is the problem. Gun producers look for demand to fit their supply. If they had no profit motive there would be no need to promote a gun culture.
Mental institutions had a market in the 50s based off of profit and the service didn’t fit the need as lower costs and maximizing costumer reach was the main goal.
mental institutions were run by the government, not private enterprise, since there was no money in them back then, and no money in them now.
remember that businesses are in business to do one thing, make money. and it doesnt matter the product as long as it is a legal product. gun manufacturers supply based on demand, as does every other business.
but lets not make this just about guns, how many buggy whip manufacturers are there today? one, two, three? why? basically there is virtually no money in making buggy whips, because there are virtually no more buggies being made.
how many conestoga wagon manufacturers are there today, a similar number to buggy whip makers? again how mnay conestoga wagons are being sold today?
there used to be over one hundred american automakers in this country, today we have like six or seven. mostly because there is no money to be made in making niche cars these days.
so if you can take away the profit motive for guns, then gun manufacturers would fall by the wayside, until there were only two or three instead of what 20 or so these days. but ow do you reduce or eliminate the profit motive? there are two ways i can think of right now;
1: ban all guns, inluding the manufacture of guns, sorry not possible given the bill of rights
2: create something better, something like the phaser on star trek, that is less deadly and just as easy to use. the problem here is that now you have criminals getting their hands on these new types of weapons, and using them for their nefarious acts. with this phaser, criminals can avoid murder, and attempted murder charges by stunning their victims, and then they can do what they want at will, rob, rape, what ever.
the best way to eliminate the profit motive on guns is to change the culture completely, and that isnt happening anywhere in the world, let alone the US.
The free market is the problem. Gun producers look for demand to fit their supply. If they had no profit motive there would be no need to promote a gun culture.
Mental institutions had a market in the 50s based off of profit and the service didn’t fit the need as lower costs and maximizing costumer reach was the main goal.
Yes and no.
There is nothing wrong with gun control, if done correctly. There is no reason for a typical citizen who barely operate a car without killing somebody to own some room-clearing murder weapon. There's no reason for crazies, criminals, or other documented dangerous individuals to own any guns at all.
That being said, yes - a lack of proper mental health care in this nation plus gun companies creating a "need" for their weapons - are also problems in their own right. Mental health care is underserved in America, and you're considered a "wimp" or a "crazy" if you get help... but if you just "tough it out" and shoot up a school, well, that's OK, provided the guns you used are still legal?! And as for the gun companies, they are disgusting and basically no better than tobacco companies at this point. Promoting death to drive sales - nice...
1) there is no fully automatic on the market, except for miltary sales only
2) most guns stay in gun safes for years without seeing daylight so sales are not that good. ts not like they get worn out and replace every couple years
i believe any crime committed with a gun should be automatic death pendity
How much you want to bet this young man in Sante Fe was educated about gun safety?
He knew how not to have an accident with a gun but he also knew how to shoot a gun.
You all are coming up with rules based on people who abide by rules.
I applaud all of you for locking up your guns, the thing to remember - even if your kids seems to be level headed, all good, how to handle a gun.....they may not be ready for a gun. Make sure they don't know where the keys are for the guns.
Don't ever say -- my kid would never ever........
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Originally Posted by natalie469
Sorry but I think it's wrong for such a young child to have access to your weapons. How many times have we heard parents of shooters saying they had no idea that their child would do such a thing because they didn't see any signs. Better safe than sorry.
education here is the key in preventing gun related accidents, but you can never stop them all. and you can never stop someone who is determined to kill from killing, even if you get rid of all the guns.
at some point children grow up, and they go out on their own, for all you parents out there, all you can do is educate them, give them the benefit of your experience and gained wisdom, and hope for the best. children are not automatons, they are human beings. and like all human being they make mistakes. did you teach your children how to drive? did they get into an accident, their fault or not? the only way you could stop them would be to never let them drive a car.
and we are not talking about teaching them to shoot a gun and then telling them that they are ready ot carry one at the tender age of say six years old, that would be stupid to think that way even for you antigun liberals. of course you are going to lock your guns up, and bring them out for the kids to use UNDER ADULT SUPERVISION, which is what you antigun liberals always seem to forget about.
My nine year old daughter has full access to all my weapons full auto and otherwise. She doesn’t mess with them. Why? Because I took the mystery out of them. She knows how they function and how to operate them, thus she has no interest in exploring those forbidden items.
Good kids make mistakes. They are kids. Maybe your daughter will be okay but maybe she would slip up. Kids -- right up until their early 20's make mistakes. They just do.
If they were, it wouldn't be a felony to own an unregistered newly manufactured full auto.
I think free market means you can sell as much as you want -- not that you can sell anything you want. You can't sell cyanide cookies -- but you can sell cookies in a free market.
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