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Old 04-25-2018, 02:16 PM
 
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Originally Posted by Hyperthetic View Post
Do them Islam countries have welfare systems, or are they entirely conservative?
Oil rich Islam countries use social spending to maintain power. Saudi Arabia is a prime example. I think UAE is another.

If they didn't their leaders would probably be overthrown by now.
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Old 04-25-2018, 02:17 PM
 
Location: Texas
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Thank you for the kind words of support. Offering nothing factual in rebuttal is acknowledgement of your capitulation.

In case you're curious, look up the SMITH ACT, which if enforced, would ban Islam and deport all Muslims.
Nothing factual? lol So I guess invading and occupying soverign nations, over throwing countries that democratically elect their leaders in order for America to protect oil interests is meaningless? Educate yourself before stepping into the deep end next time sport.

You forget about over throwing Mossadegh the Premier of Iran? How do you create a terrorist? Take an innocent person who has done nothing to you, and kill their family.

It isn't religion, it's the government.

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Old 04-25-2018, 02:24 PM
 
Location: Texas
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If you put the word "Republican" in there instead of Muslims, it would still make sense.

As you well know, Republicans have defended and put up with (and even outright supported) many an Evil Deed and/or Statement from the current POTUS...and they have been "exonerated by their communities"....not only that, but they seek to "legalize" the evil deeds using pardons, Saturday night massacres (firings) and other such methods.
Posts like this are the problem. The left ignorers murderers like clinton and obama because they are too busy pointing their fingers at the right for doing the exact same thing. Which is strange since only the president has the power to bring the troops home.

The left is against the wars in the Middle East it's just that they elect leadership that isn't. Why it all makes sense. In bizarro world.
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Old 04-25-2018, 04:35 PM
 
Location: Prepperland
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"...with intent to cause the overthrow or destruction of any such government.
I know of no platform of any political party or administration that expresses the overthrow of the republican form of government, instituted in 1776, promised by Art. 4, Sec. 4, USCON.
That’s the one where it is recognized that all men have Creator endowed rights that government was instituted to secure.

FWIW - The world is divided into two groups :
• People who have Creator endowed rights*, and
• People who want to take them for their own benefit.

(* Rights to life, natural liberty, personal liberty, inherent powers, absolute ownership, privileges and immunities not dependent upon consent, etc.)

America’s governments were instituted to secure endowed rights of the people in the first group.
However, those who consent to be governed, surrender those endowed rights in exchange for privileges, which come with mandatory civic duties that abrogate endowed rights (i.e. militia duty, etc).

And those who volunteered into national socialism, via FICA, have further dropped in status. But he who consents cannot object - shut up, sit down, pay and obey.

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Evil, as defined by Western Culture...
Isn't what you think it is. It’s relative to the law one embraces.

The basis for all morality is survival.
Dead things have no morality.

There are two sets of laws, or systems of conduct:
• 1. Law of love, versus
• 2. Law of the jungle.

Under the law of love, harmless activity in support of one's "right to life" is moral / good. Harmful action is "bad". Self sacrifice is the “highest good.”

Under the law of the jungle, predators are "good", and prey are "good to eat". Prey who fight back are "bad". Sacrificing others for one’s own gain is the rule, not the exception.

Natural law recognizes the "right to life" of lions, sharks, and other predators. The one who can defend that right, prevails.

Humans who embrace jungle law are certainly law abiding - it’s just not what we wish for “civilization.”

Under the law of love, evil is that which deliberately harms another’s person, liberty or property.

Islam does not recognize endowed rights of infidels and barely tolerate "people of the book." (See: Dhimmi and the jizya tax)

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[1] The Smith Act would be thrown out by the courts if enacted.
[It's already enacted as 18 U.S.C. § 2385
https://www.law.cornell.edu/uscode/text/18/2385]


[2] You're looking at the literal writings in the books, which are no different from other religions.
[Ahem, you might look into the commentaries and histories written about Mohammed and those who followed after. See: the Koran, Hadiths, Sira, and the Sunna of Mohammed. You will find a VAST difference.]

You're also looking at specific state policies. There's over a billion muslims, tens of millions here in the US, that have no problems living with others. [Again, as mentioned before, Islam simultaneously preaches peace -and- eternal war. When a Muslim engages in jihad, the "peaceful" Muslims do not criticize nor punish him.]
Please read their own admissions.
= = =
Or watch them - - -
Muslim Blooper Reel
http://www.liveleak.com/view?i=f8a_1431048756

= = =

This video on Political Islam is very disturbing.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=t_Qpy0mXg8Y

Bill Warner - intro to Islam

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YjBDDC4wVxk

https://youtu.be/-ilFbbk9jw4

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The bottom line - every time Islam is beaten back, driven out, or contained, it bides its time and resumes jihad when the opportunity arises.
You can't expect moderation or reform, when apostates are summarily executed.
Its “perfect man” is a self proclaimed prophet whose documented proclivities would rate execution if not lifetime imprisonment for rape, murder, theft, pedophilia, kidnapping, necrophilia and other abominations. This warlord is the ideal that Muslims are taught to emulate. It is no wonder that Islamic nations must be ruled under the iron boot heel of dictators and warlords. And Islam only respects those who can crush it, and thus feigns peaceful intents to dispel any suspicion of its diabolical nature. But once it gains sufficient numbers, it imposes its barbaric Shari’a law, and destroys the host civilization.
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