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View Poll Results: Should stores that sell alcohol and/or tobacco be allowed to employ people under the legal age for t
Yes 12 63.16%
No 7 36.84%
Voters: 19. You may not vote on this poll

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Old 04-28-2018, 11:47 AM
 
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Tobacco 21 laws have caused 18-20-year-olds who work at grocery stores, 7/11s, hookah bars, cigar bars, etc. to loose their jobs. Should the law be written so that these people can keep their jobs?
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Old 04-28-2018, 01:09 PM
 
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Under 21 laws for alcohol don't seem to stop teenagers from working the register at grocery stores. Why would this be any different?
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Old 04-28-2018, 01:18 PM
 
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Tobacco 21 laws have caused 18-20-year-olds who work at grocery stores, 7/11s, hookah bars, cigar bars, etc. to loose their jobs. Should the law be written so that these people can keep their jobs?
Where have they been loosing their jobs? It's 21 to consume/posses, not lose a job over for working in a place that has it. There are plenty of 18-20yo servers in restaurants that can carry your beer/wine/cocktail to the table, no?
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Old 04-28-2018, 01:22 PM
 
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Where does this happen at? Never heard such a thing.
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Old 04-28-2018, 01:23 PM
 
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Underaged employees in Ohio cannot ring out alcohol. They have to call someone older to ring up the sale

I have no issues with underaged employees working in these stores
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Old 04-28-2018, 02:39 PM
 
Location: Colorado
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Underaged employees in Ohio cannot ring out alcohol. They have to call someone older to ring up the sale

I have no issues with underaged employees working in these stores
That seems to be the case here in Colorado. Recently, the grocery stores obtained the right to carry greater than 3.2% stuff, and the one I go to remodeled to carry wine, vodka, and so on and so forth. And they have a lot of teen-aged cashiers. Every time somebody goes through one of their lines with alcohol, they have to call over an of-age employee to ring it out.
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Old 04-28-2018, 02:40 PM
 
Location: Colorado Springs
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Tobacco 21 laws have caused 18-20-year-olds who work at grocery stores, 7/11s, hookah bars, cigar bars, etc. to loose their jobs. Should the law be written so that these people can keep their jobs?
Drinking age should be 16. Liquor Stores should be open 24/7
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Old 04-28-2018, 03:11 PM
 
Location: Suburb of Chicago
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Underaged employees in Ohio cannot ring out alcohol. They have to call someone older to ring up the sale

I have no issues with underaged employees working in these stores

Ditto in Illinois. but the OP is talking about tobacco laws in states where the age went from 18 to 21, which means 18-20 year olds found themselves out of a job.

OP, while unfortunate that they lost their jobs, I don't think they should have been able to keep them. Too much temptation for an immature age group with friends.

Also, manning a cash register in a grocery store where an older person rings up the item creates fewer interruptions than you'd find in a different kind of store where someone buys cigarettes. Underage people can't work in a liquor store either, so tobacco outlets would be no different.
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Old 04-28-2018, 03:12 PM
 
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Underaged employees in Ohio cannot ring out alcohol. They have to call someone older to ring up the sale

I have no issues with underaged employees working in these stores
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That seems to be the case here in Colorado. Recently, the grocery stores obtained the right to carry greater than 3.2% stuff, and the one I go to remodeled to carry wine, vodka, and so on and so forth. And they have a lot of teen-aged cashiers. Every time somebody goes through one of their lines with alcohol, they have to call over an of-age employee to ring it out.
Lol, wow. Never even heard of this before. Crazy to think such things are restricted.
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Old 04-28-2018, 06:04 PM
 
Location: Suburb of Chicago
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Where have they been loosing their jobs? It's 21 to consume/posses, not lose a job over for working in a place that has it. There are plenty of 18-20yo servers in restaurants that can carry your beer/wine/cocktail to the table, no?
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Where does this happen at? Never heard such a thing.

It's subject to local laws. In Chicago you have to be 21 to serve alcohol.


https://www.illinois.gov/ilcc/about/...AQs-legal.aspx


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Q: What is the minimum age to sell/serve alcoholic liquor and can minors enter a bar?
A: Both answers are subject to local jurisdictional ordinances, but, at a minimum, the seller/server must be at least 18 years of age. A minor is not allowed to sell/serve alcoholic liquor. Illinois Liquor Control Commission Rules & Regulations (Section 100.10) define a "minor" as a person under 18 years of age (per an Illinois Attorney General opinion in 1973). However, the Illinois Liquor Control Act (235 ILCS 5/6-16, 235 ILCS 5/6-16.2, and ILCS 5/4-1) allows local jurisdictional control over this matter as well as the age allowed to enter a bar/tavern (restaurants that serve alcohol are exempt from this law). In Chicago, for example, you must be 21 to sell/serve alcohol and those under 21 years of age must be accompanied by a parent or guardian to enter a bar/tavern. Some other local jurisdictions allow all ages to enter, regardless of whether they are with a parent or legal guardian. Other municipalities have ordinances specifying different ages for the selling, serving, pouring, drawing, and/or opening of alcoholic beverages. You can view various ordinances for most local jurisdictions by viewing the Local Survey on this website. One state law that cannot be changed, however, is the legal drinking age of 21.[SIZE=1] [/SIZE]
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