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Old 04-29-2018, 08:11 AM
 
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That's all you got? LMAO ...
Sorry, I am not a little child who has to get the last word in.
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Old 04-29-2018, 12:12 PM
 
Location: WMHT
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Thumbs up The group behind the t-shirt runs k12speech.com for students who want to know their rights in school

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Originally Posted by WCSD Dress code
No sexual overtones, or anything that promotes weapons, alcohol, drugs, tobacco, gang membership, or violence
Since YOU are going with "promotes violence", explain how this particular shirt promotes violence........ be specific,
Apparently school policy allows shirts which have words related to guns on them, but only when the message is anti-gun, making the phrase "...anything that promotes weapons..." a legitimate first amendment issue.

The group which produced the shirt runs "K12Speech.com" a website for students who want to know what their rights are while in school: https://www.firearmspolicy.org/fpf_f...n_k_12_schools


For reference, here is the shirt in question:
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Old 04-29-2018, 02:16 PM
 
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Apparently school policy allows shirts which have words related to guns on them, but only when the message is anti-gun, making the phrase "...anything that promotes weapons..." a legitimate first amendment issue.
Apparently?

Is this just something you heard from Fox News, or do you have a link to back this up?

And my link, I mean a link to a legitimate source.
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Old 04-29-2018, 02:18 PM
 
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Correct. If a school allows hijabs, it must also allow all other religious apparel.
And this shirt does not fall under religious apparel.
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Old 04-29-2018, 02:45 PM
 
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Most adults can't carry guns at school. Usually codified at the state law level. If you can show me where a state law says a student cannot wear clothing depicting US Constitutional Rights, post it.
State law has no bearing on the school's dress code.

All the rhetoric about "rights" is pointless since most school aged kids aren't old enough to have all the rights of an adult.

There's no hope of him winning this lawsuit.
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Old 04-29-2018, 06:28 PM
 
Location: WMHT
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Post Lawsuit is "Guardanapo v. Washoe County School District"

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Apparently?
Is this just something you heard from Fox News, or do you have a link to back this up?
And my link, I mean a link to a legitimate source.
That's what I love about your side -- you immediately decide that anybody who disagrees with you must have been brainwashed by Fox News. Just for that, I'm not giving you a link, you've got to work for it.

The sentence in question reads "No sexual overtones, or anything that promotes weapons, alcohol, drugs, tobacco, gang membership, or violence"

Google the Kendyl Depoali Middle School dress code for yourself, or read his lawsuit, Guardanapo v. Washoe County School District et al. I'll even help you out with a relevant snippet from the initial filing:


Note the references both to Tinker and the more recent (and directly relevant) Newsom v. Albemarle County School Board

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Old 04-29-2018, 06:36 PM
 
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That's what I love about your side -- you immediately decide that anybody who disagrees with you must have been brainwashed by Fox News. Just for that, I'm not giving you a link, you've got to work for it.
So you have no proof that the school allowed anti-gun shirts, it was just something you made up. That's what I figured.
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Old 04-29-2018, 06:50 PM
 
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Unhappy Maybe most school aged kids aren't old enough to have all the rights of an adult, but they do have rights

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So you have no proof that the school allowed anti-gun shirts, it was just something you made up. That's what I figured.
See the word "promotes" in the dress code, quoted above.

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State law has no bearing on the school's dress code.
All the rhetoric about "rights" is pointless since most school aged kids aren't old enough to have all the rights of an adult.
There's no hope of him winning this lawsuit.
See Newsom v. Albemarle County School Board. Newsom, a sixth grader at Jack Jouett Middle School, won a very similar lawsuit (and $150K) back in 2004. Newsom's lawsuit was backed by both the NRA and the state ACLU chapter.
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Old 04-30-2018, 05:03 AM
 
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State law has no bearing on the school's dress code.

All the rhetoric about "rights" is pointless since most school aged kids aren't old enough to have all the rights of an adult.

There's no hope of him winning this lawsuit.
See Newsom v. Albemarle County School Board. Newsom, a sixth grader at Jack Jouett Middle School, won a very similar lawsuit (and $150K) back in 2004. Newsom's lawsuit was backed by both the NRA and the state ACLU chapter.
100% correct. And I'm stunned, simply stunned, that some people are under the impression that minors don't have Constitutional Rights. /SMH
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Old 04-30-2018, 06:00 AM
 
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100% correct. And I'm stunned, simply stunned, that some people are under the impression that minors don't have Constitutional Rights. /SMH
So, the left shows its hypocrisy AGAIN.

An under 18 year old does NOT have Constitutional rights in regard the 1st and 2nd amendments when it comes to guns BUT HAS Constitutional rights when it come to abortion.

"If you're under 18, you may or may not have to tell a parent in order to get an abortion — it all depends on the laws where you live. "

"
California

No parental involvement requirement."


"

Connecticut

No parental involvement requirement."


All state are listed here, https://www.plannedparenthood.org/le...ification-laws
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