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Old 04-28-2018, 03:04 PM
 
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This will strengthen the Red Wall, by adding electoral votes to that block, for decades to come.

Having lived in the Red Wall 17 years, they welcome those refugees.

GOP's SALT cap may speed exodus from high-tax states, report says | Fox News
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Old 04-28-2018, 03:26 PM
 
Location: Kansas City, MISSOURI
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This will strengthen the Red Wall, by adding electoral votes to that block, for decades to come.
I'm not sure what planet you live on, but it is likely to have the opposite effect, since liberals from those higher tax states will move to the lower tax states, thus making the latter more blue. In fact, it's already started happening in Nevada, Arizona and probably North Carolina as people move away from high-tax California and New York.
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Old 04-28-2018, 03:32 PM
 
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I'm not sure what planet you live on, but it is likely to have the opposite effect, since liberals from those higher tax states will move to the lower tax states, thus making the latter more blue. In fact, it's already started happening in Nevada, Arizona and probably North Carolina as people move away from high-tax California and New York.
Exactly.

Just because people move to a new state, doesn't mean they lose their minds and start voting for child molesters, Nazi sympathizers, and corporate coal mining felons.

Look at Alabama. The populated areas where the engineers and auto manufacturing employees moved to were the areas that turned out for Doug Jones, the Democrat.
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Old 04-28-2018, 03:35 PM
 
Location: Long Island
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This will strengthen the Red Wall, by adding electoral votes to that block, for decades to come.

Having lived in the Red Wall 17 years, they welcome those refugees.

GOP's SALT cap may speed exodus from high-tax states, report says | Fox News

How many are retirees moving to Fla and AZ, seems to me this has a lot to do with baby boomers. Texas will be turning blue in a few years and AZ will probably follow, so much for your red wall for decades to come..
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Old 04-28-2018, 03:45 PM
 
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I've noticed a lot of right wing articles trying to drive the messaging that blue states are losing population due to the Trump tax plan that penalizes blue states by making their SALT non-deductible. The goal seems to be a veiled way to excuse the fact that Trump weaponized his own tax plan in order to penalize Democrats.

Now - we are coming up on midterm elections and Republicans in blue states should be kicked to the curb HARD. There is no reason a blue state should elect a Republican after the Trump tax plan. Republicans literally voted to increase taxes on their own constituents. And blue states contribute more in federal taxes than red states already! They already were contributing more. Blue states, especially coastal blue states, pay huge federal taxes because they tend to attract an educated populace and businesses are generated from that. California has the 6th largest economy in the world!!!

So, first, blue states need to punish every Republican in their respective states by kicking them out of office. Trump needs to be weakened politically first. And Republicans need to see just what happens when they weaponize the tax plan.

As for a blue state "exodus", a lot of blue states wouldn't mind seeing a bit of an exodus, our populations are extremely heavy as it is and if these people can tolerate moving to a state like Texas (which has extremely high property taxes by the way) then they should definitely do so.
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Old 04-28-2018, 03:50 PM
 
Location: Kansas City, MISSOURI
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That's a good point. Not only will some liberals move to the lower-tax red states, thus making them bluer, the remaining red sections of the high-tax blue states will rebel again the republicans in their own districts because they raised taxes on them. Double whammy against the repubs.
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Old 04-28-2018, 04:10 PM
 
Location: New Jersey
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Meh. It was dumb of Republicans to do this. Very dumb. It’s going to turn solid red states purple.
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Old 04-28-2018, 04:11 PM
 
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That's a good point. Not only will some liberals move to the lower-tax red states, thus making them bluer, the remaining red sections of the high-tax blue states will rebel again the republicans in their own districts because they raised taxes on them. Double whammy against the repubs.

And rightly so.
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Old 04-28-2018, 04:14 PM
 
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Meh. It was dumb of Republicans to do this. Very dumb. It’s going to turn solid red states purple.
This was such a dumb move.

Many Republicans insist the reason the vote for Republicans is "fiscal responsibility."

The tax scam and the spending bill are neither.

Those voters that realized they were duped, might be reluctant to played for fools again.

Then you have the blue state liberals moving in.

Not sure why Republicans would think any of this is good news for them.
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Old 04-28-2018, 04:16 PM
 
Location: Long Island
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One of the authors of the article was Arthur Laffer, one of the economists from Reaganomics.
Very short article and seems like he is just throwing numbers around.
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