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Old 04-30-2018, 12:19 PM
 
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I can only speak for NYC, but majority of immigrants here are hard working people who don't commit crimes. NYC has one of the lowest crime rates in the country despite the share of immigrants going up. A lot of suburban America is just a crime ridden ***hole with methheads and prescription drug abusers compared to NYC immigrant neighborhoods. Top NYC public schools are majority immigrant and they are out-competing the lazy whining Americans who have no drive or direction. A lot of immigrants here wonder why instead of whining about competition, all these US citizens take some personal responsibility, pull themselves up by the bootstraps and compete...

Street homeless are not even from around here, but are mostly lazy US citizens from middle America with a history of drug and alcohol abuse who come here to mooch on the government's tit on the back of hard working immigrants. NYC does provide free housing to homeless from NYC/single parent households, so you don't see those people on the street.

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Old 04-30-2018, 12:26 PM
 
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If you are getting outcompeted by uneducated immigrants from third world countries with no grasp of the language and any professional skills, why do you want the government to come in and fix your personal problems?
Take some personal responsibility and pull yourself up by the bootstraps. Too many big government borrow-and-spend conservatives who don't believe in free markets and competition around here.
If only Americans were more accustomed to the standard of living found in the third world lower class neighborhoods of countries like Mexico. But they will be soon enough, am I right? Let's whip our citizens in to the dirt with their own bootstraps! The irony will be delicious! We can eat caviar and watch it on pay per view. Wait...is that my son over there being beaten with that boot strap? Nahhh...he's got connections. That's some other fellow. Pass me another beer!
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Old 04-30-2018, 12:28 PM
 
Location: IL
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cuz dey vote
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Old 04-30-2018, 12:33 PM
 
Location: Brooklyn, New York
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If only Americans were more accustomed to the standard of living found in the third world lower class neighborhoods of countries like Mexico. But they will be soon enough, am I right? Let's whip our citizens in to the dirt with their own bootstraps! The irony will be delicious! We can eat caviar and watch it on pay per view. Wait...is that my son over there being beaten with that boot strap? Nahhh...he's got connections. That's some other fellow. Pass me another beer!
Restricting freedom of movement for the sake of limiting competition to preserve workers' salaries is something practiced in socialist countries, and was practiced in the Soviet Union. Some conservatives are becoming big government borrow-and-spend communists who don't believe in free markets or personal responsibility. No wonder they are in cahoots with Russia. Go out there and compete. It is not the government's job to restrict other peoples freedom so you can get the wage you think you are "entitled" to.
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Old 04-30-2018, 12:35 PM
 
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I can only speak for NYC, but majority of immigrants here are hard working people who don't commit crimes. NYC has one of the lowest crime rates in the country despite the share of immigrants going up. A lot of suburban America is just a crime ridden ***hole with methheads and prescription drug abusers compared to NYC immigrant neighborhoods. Top NYC public schools are majority immigrant and they are out-competing the lazy whining Americans who have no drive or direction. A lot of immigrants here wonder why instead of whining about competition, all these US citizens take some personal responsibility, pull themselves up by the bootstraps and compete...

Street homeless are not even from around here, but are mostly lazy US citizens from middle America with a history of drug and alcohol abuse who come here to mooch on the government's tit on the back of hard working immigrants. NYC does provide free housing to homeless from NYC/single parent households, so you don't see those people on the street.
Not so true. Regular Americans don't even get all the Freebies immigrants do. Americans don't live ten in a two bedroom house. Americans are expected to live in third world conditions just to make it even. I might take meth too if I was some kid with no hope because minorities and immigrants are given special treatment. Further, the kid has to feel insulted because his retired American uncle with two houses and a boat made bank as a landscaper or factory worker for thirty years. Now it would be competing for scraps. What are they supposed to think, get on board US is now Honduras and let's pretend it is perfectly normal.
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Old 04-30-2018, 12:39 PM
 
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Restricting freedom of movement for the sake of limiting competition to preserve workers' salaries is something practiced in socialist countries, and was practiced in the Soviet Union. Conservatives are becoming big government borrow-and-spend communists who don't believe in free markets or personal responsibility. Go out there and compete. It is not the government's job to restrict other peoples freedom so you can get the wage you think you are "entitled" to.
They make boot straps with Velcro now you know. Do socialists know about those?


Ahh who cares? The view from the veranda on my vacation home in Brazil is wonderful and I can hardly hear the gunfire from the favelas at night. Everything will be just fine.
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Old 04-30-2018, 12:40 PM
 
Location: Brooklyn, New York
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Not so true. Regular Americans don't even get all the Freebies immigrants do. .
What freebies? Most government "freebies" are restricted by income, not citizenship status. Are those freebies only available to immigrants make you less competitive?
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Ahh who cares? The view from the veranda on my vacation home in Brazil is wonderful and I can hardly hear the gunfire from the favelas at night. Everything will be just fine.
Again, NYC has very low crime rate, even in immigrant neighborhoods. Plus, isn't it a constitutional right to own a gun?
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Old 04-30-2018, 12:46 PM
 
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Immigrants from other cultures often do not have a sense of Americans' personal space. It makes me real nervous to have a man up on me in the DMV line and I have been shoved out of the way at a Farmers Market, by people of certain refugee population.

It doesn't seem like it should be too difficult to observe the customs of a country and culture that welcomed you, and practice it. I wonder if they know women in the US are allowed to defend themselves.
I had to laugh when I read that. I think I know which population you are talking about. And I just shove back (I played basketball for many years and know how to do a gentle hip-check). They may look at you funny but they won't say anything...after all, they're used to it in their home country!!!
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Old 04-30-2018, 12:48 PM
 
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What freebies? Most government "freebies" are restricted by income, not citizenship status. Are those freebies only available to immigrants make you less competitive?

Again, NYC has very low crime rate, even in immigrant neighborhoods. Plus, isn't it a constitutional right to own a gun?
If you're not willing to live with ten people packed in to a two bedroom apartment like illegals from Guatemala are, why are you even still alive? But please if you don't mind would you pass me an hors d'oeuvre?
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Old 04-30-2018, 12:49 PM
 
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If you're not willing to live with ten people packed in to a two bedroom apartment like illegals from Guatemala are, why are you even still alive? But please if you don't mind would you pass me an hors d'oeuvre?
It is not governments responsibility to provide you with housing. Conservatives are now pro-government socialized housing as well? Go out there and get a job and pay for your own living arrangements.
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