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Old 06-12-2018, 04:56 AM
 
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Really? I have to post links? As if you would accept them.

Anyway, if you are not familiar with the Agreed Framework, I suggest you research and study more history.
I have suggested that you stop posting lies, and actually research the history.

As you have shown no inclination to do either, I'll give it another go for those who are interested in the truth.

"The Agreed Framework succeeded in temporarily freezing North Korea’s plutonium production capabilities and placing it under IAEA safeguards by freezing operation of North Korea’s 5 MWe reactor at Yongbyon and stopping construction of two other reactors – a 50 MWe reactor at Yongbyon and a 200 MWe reactor at Taechon. Experts estimate that without the Agreed Framework, North Korea could have hundreds of nuclear weapons at this point."

Doing the Bush administration, U.S. intelligence sources revealed that "North Korea’s centrifuge program was pursuing technology for a uranium enrichment program, which would produce material for nuclear weapons."

Instead of confronting the North Koreans and demanding they halt their efforts to create a uranium enrichment capability, John Bolton, undersecretary of state for arms control and international security under Bush, wrote that “this was the hammer I had been looking for to shatter the Agreed Framework.”

Japan and South Korea were to finance and supply North Korea with two light-water reactors. "After several years of site preparation, ground was broken in August 2001 in Kumho, North Korea. KEDO poured the concrete for the first reactor in August 2002, but suspended the project Dec. 1, 2003."

To compensate for the electricity-generating capacity that Pyongyang gave up by freezing its nuclear reactors, North Korea ws to get 500,000 metric tons of heavy-fuel oil annually until the light-water reactors were completed.

The U.S. suspended these shipments in November of 2002.

https://www.armscontrol.org/factsheets/agreedframework

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Old 06-12-2018, 05:02 AM
 
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Long story short.

The Agreed Framework slowed North Korea's progress towards nuclear weapons.

When sources reported that North Korea had started up research again, Bush, Bolton etc. decided that instead of confronting North Korea and working with the international community to demand North Korea halt their pursuit of nuclear weapons, they would just abandon the agreement altogether.

And here we are today.

While the U.S. provided some fuel oil, no nuclear material was ever provided to North Korea.

The light water reactors were never built.

Satellite images of these abandoned reactors can be viewed with a Google image search.
 
Old 06-12-2018, 05:06 AM
 
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Long story short.

Bolton and Bush decided that instead of confronting North Korea and working with the international community to demand North Korea halt their pursuit of nuclear weapons, they would just abandon the agreement altogether.

And here we are today.

While the U.S. provided some fuel oil, no nuclear material was ever provided to North Korea.

The light water reactors were never built.

Satellite images of these abandoned reactors can be viewed with a Google image search.
I've wondered about this. We know North Korea is starving. What if they never had nuclear weapons. Trump would never want that known because it would mean he met with a murderous dictator for nothing.
 
Old 06-12-2018, 05:06 AM
 
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Really? I have to post links? As if you would accept them.
LOL, so now you give yourself permission to lie???



Yes, if you want to be listen to post links
 
Old 06-12-2018, 05:24 AM
 
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Fox News is simply right wing propaganda, but they are shameless about it.
all but Shepard Smith
 
Old 06-12-2018, 05:25 AM
 
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I've wondered about this. We know North Korea is starving. What if they never had nuclear weapons. Trump would never want that known because it would mean he met with a murderous dictator for nothing.
Hard to say how many nuclear weapons NK has, but reports are that nuclear weapons have exploded at a test site that has partially collapsed under the stress of the explosions.

However, it could well be that these are all the nuclear weapons they have or perhaps they were testing weapons for China.

Who knows.
 
Old 06-12-2018, 05:29 AM
 
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I've wondered about this. We know North Korea is starving. What if they never had nuclear weapons. Trump would never want that known because it would mean he met with a murderous dictator for nothing.
Trump did meet with a murderous dictator for nothing.

U.S. got nothing out of this but a worthless piece of paper.
 
Old 06-12-2018, 05:37 AM
 
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Trump did meet with a murderous dictator for nothing.

U.S. got nothing out of this but a worthless piece of paper.
Worth less then nothing as 2 liars signed a document which did nothing.

Trump played again by another liar.
 
Old 06-12-2018, 05:49 AM
 
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Worth less then nothing as 2 liars signed a document which did nothing.

Trump played again by another liar.
Hard to believe that anyone would celebrate this.

Typically, summit meetings are proceeded by negotiations in which the framework for the resulting agreements are decided on before the planes ever leave the ground.

From the cheap seats, it looks like team Trump agreed to suspend joint military training with South Korea in order to get Kim to show up.
 
Old 06-12-2018, 05:52 AM
 
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Why is it the ONLY recourse's for Trumpers are Clinton or Obama. They are now history and not in the picture. Get over it please you all sound like broken records. Think of something else as to excuse Trumps sheer incompetence and unrationed actions.
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