Marco Rubio: Corporations aren't investing tax cuts

[Freak80]

Originally Posted by Pilot1

Also, today most large corporations are run by Democrat supporting liberal/progressives.

Evidence please.

[Volobjectitarian]

Why does a corporation need to do a specific thing to justify the majority of the populace being taxed less? Tax cuts are self-justifying.

People should keep more of what they earn and the government should spend less. The pot of gold at the end of the tax cut rainbow isn't some specific amount of increased hiring, or corporate reinvestment or whatever...it's the paying less taxes thing in general.

The baseline fact people need to get on board with is the money they make is theirs. It does not belong to the government. What the government takes is nothing more than their periodic reminder that they possess a monopoly on force and violence, and can violate your rights in ways individual citizens cannot as a result of that monopoly. But at no point is what you earn "their money." It never belongs to them, they never have a right to it, they simply take what they want by force.

Therefore, a tax cut does not represent them "giving" anyone anything. They don't own what it is they claim to be "giving back"...YOU OWN IT. A tax cut represents them stealing less when they rob you.

This entire thread is absurd.

"When we agreed to steal less from you, we thought you understood that you needed to do something we want with the money of yours that we let you keep. How dare you do whatever you want with YOUR money!?!? If you aren't going to spend that money the way we want, we may as well take it from you like before, and then do whatever we want."

Seriously...that's all this thread boils down to.

[craigiri]

Originally Posted by middle-aged mom

Toys R Us pushed out small independent toy stores.

I don’t attribute the rise or blame the decline of any business to any Administration.

Most new businesses fail and do so because of inexperience and incompetence of their owners. Some learn from the experience and start a new business. Others get stuck blaming anything/ everything other than themselves. Most new businesses will continue to fail regardless of taxes, or who sits the oval.

Of course, you are largely correct.

BUT, Trump himself hung his hat on the lie that he was going to make things like the "old days"....which specifically involved coal jobs, high paying manufacturing and the like.

THAT is the real difference. His followers don't accept reality...and the very idea that the same "Tea Party" angry citizens and pols would be for a tax cut 100% from Debt and Deficit...at the same time they pass legislation for health care to go up and remove millions from health insurance...is ironic (and, of course, wrong)...

Trump and his Swampthings are all from the dying breed...resource extraction, over-development, etc.

It's interesting to look at the top five largest businesses in the USA - and.or world and realize that these are the opposite of Trump World. But, then again, that's what made Trump World....people who cannot accept change.

Apple, Google, Amazon, Facebook and Tencent (Chinese Tech Company) are, I think, the current top five.

Most ALL growth of real jobs and real value in the USA is coming from the complete opposite of Trumpism - heck, even Buffet wants to pay MORE taxes and wasn't even fooled by the 10's of billions that Trump just gave him for free (he mentioned it in a derogatory sense - he didn't want or need it - especially out the pockets of the American people as a whole)....

A decent man. Liberal, of course (it probably angers many that ALL of these top companies are of the liberal and progressive persuasion.

As has been mentioned and discussed, the true reasoning of the Trump voter has been exposed in various studies since...they are largely people who personally feel they are becoming irrelevant. IMHO, personal irrelevance is:

1. A psychological shortcoming
and
2. If true, it is true for all of us. In the end, we are all ants on the Ant Farm.

That's a heck of a way to elect leaders or run a country...based on trying to make a certain group or groups more "mentally stable".

[middle-aged mom]

Originally Posted by Pilot1

Obama, and his union bailouts PROLONGED the recession. We would have been out of it much sooner. Also, it was a hollow recovery where Obama's Wall Street cronies, and the Solyndras of the world benefited.

Unemployment rate declined to 4.7% during the Obama years. Trump claimed they were fake numbers.

Using the same methodology, Trump now takes credit for the continuing decline.

[dspguy]

Originally Posted by chucksnee

Pelosi, is that you? Crumbs I guess...huh...


You cannot say that for sure...you cannot tell me what the budget is for any company or how they plan to use that money...are they buying stocks back, sure...do tell...what has GE bought back and what are they doing with the rest? For that matter, pick any company you like and tell us what they are doing, since you have a crystal ball that marco seems to have...

I love how on one hand you dismiss reports of companies buying back stocks. And then in the other, you just happily accept reports of companies giving out one-time bonuses. So which is it?

We don't know how many companies are passing their tax benefits along to employees in the form of raises or bonuses. And we don't really know how many companies are pocketing the benefits.

Don't be so quick to dismiss statements about CEOs saying they are passing it on to shareholders and then simply assume that most companies are giving employees raises.