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You told me last time that the collectives' needs are superior to the individual's needs in this case.
Even though I never knew a hammer could be used for anything but having sex with it you are showing up and labeling it a tool...and furthermore saying that as a tool it has more importance than my use for it (which is having sex with it).
1. Only if there is an emergency of human life can the take it without asking. But say there is one widget and 200 people need to use it (together) vs one, then the greater production needs of 200 people surpass the one.
The workers is not the widget. You can ignore them, not talk to them, but you have no intrinsic right to that widget unless you are using it.
Acknowledging a syndicate exists is like acknowledging other people exist in the world you live in.
Nobody has the right to tell me I have to acknowledge ANYONE.
Have you gone you mad?????
If I'm building a shed to store my stuff for the winter and the syndicate comes along and is in desperate need of my tools and they observe me taking a break you're telling me I have to hear them out as they eye the tools I am going to resume using in 30 minutes?
Can you provide a better explanation as to why slaves are actors - how is the salt mine slave, doing want they want as an individual.
If someone owns the output of you labor then you are a slave. If you control the output of your labor then you are free.
If on a case by case basis you choose to hand over your labor to another then that is your right. But if you are under contract that states your output belongs to someone else, that is slavery.
1. Only if there is an emergency of human life can the take it without asking. But say there is one widget and 200 people need to use it (together) vs one, then the greater production needs of 200 people surpass the one.
2. A hammers main purpose is production, not sex
No it's not. I made the hammer without ever seeing one and use it for sex.
You just decided that for the entire world the hammer has a main purpose of production. That's tyranny and slavery.
Nobody has the right to tell me I have to acknowledge ANYONE.
Have you gone you mad?????
If I'm building a shed to store my stuff for the winter and the syndicate comes along and is in desperate need of my tools and they observe me taking a break you're telling me I have to hear them out as they eye the tools I am going to resume using in 30 minutes?
Dude, that's the definition of tyranny.
If you using a tool to supply yourself with a base need (shelter, water, etc.) but not to excess (say you're building a second house in which case you are no longer fulfilling a basic need) then your needs are justified.
But if your production is not needed at that very moment and someone else is then they have a right to use said tool.
No it's not. I made the hammer without ever seeing one and use it for sex.
You just decided that for the entire world the hammer has a main purpose of production. That's tyranny and slavery.
If you build something by this definition: a tool with a heavy metal head mounted at right angles at the end of a handle, used for jobs such as breaking things and driving in nails.
Then it is a hammer whether you know it or not. If you build something that looks like a hammer or could (hypothetically) be used in the place of a hammer then it is not a means of production as that objects main purpose has to specifically be production.
And your laws defining someones right to ownership pf something that is not them must be accepted by everyone else.
See how that works?
No.
Hammers don't appear in nature. A human must put their time and labor into making one. That is how ownership is achieved.
I'm wiling to listen to you if a hammer has ever appeared out of thin air or bears make them for use on building houses though. Just produce the evidence.
We've been over this. In your world a syndicate on the way over to the next factory town comes across an encampment that was crafted by a human yet you want me to believe they think it spontaneously appeared.
If someone owns the output of you labor then you are a slave.If you control the output of your labor then you are free.
If on a case by case basis you choose to hand over your labor to another then that is your right. But if you are under contract that states your output belongs to someone else, that is slavery.
If you willingly agreed to a contract, then you're doing the same as the person who hands over their labour, except that you're receiving renumeration.
If you build something by this definition: a tool with a heavy metal head mounted at right angles at the end of a handle, used for jobs such as breaking things and driving in nails.
Then it is a hammer whether you know it or not. If you build something that looks like a hammer or could (hypothetically) be used in the place of a hammer then it is not a means of production as that objects main purpose has to specifically be production.
I never used the hammer for anything else but having sex with it. A friend of mine breaks things and drives nails in around my house when I'm not home. I have no idea how it gets done. He's a nice guy.
Hammers don't appear in nature. A human must put their time and labor into making one. That is how ownership is achieved.
I'm wiling to listen to you if a hammer has ever appeared out of thin air or bears make them for use on building houses though. Just produce the evidence.
We've been over this. In your world a syndicate on the way over to the next factory town comes across an encampment that was crafted by a human yet you want me to believe they think it spontaneously appeared.
Hammers don't just magically appear from human will either. They are built with metal alloys and woods, all products of nature.
Further more capitalism (as you describe) would dictate land, and other natural properties into the realm of private ownership.
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