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We have 330 million people in America today. 120 million are laborers. 30,000 people are the capitalist owners living lives of fantastic comfort and wealth unavailable to everyone else.
We have 120 million people working balls out to ensure that the owners live in the lap of velvet luxury…while the Laborers themselves are barely making ends meet.
That’s the American story as it stands today. That has to change, pronto. We are all important parts of production. For a few to live as gods parasitically siphoning the fruits of the labor of others is tyrannical, disgusting, unfair, and yes, evil.
Corporate entities are tyrannical top down creatures. Capitalism plays that same song. I don't want tyranny in my politics. I sure as heck don't want tyranny in my economics.
that is not capitalism...it is the fascism that the left brought here in the early 1900's
that is not capitalism...it is the fascism that the left brought here in the early 1900's
Ahh, so the 1800s when Capital was controlled by a handful of men and the working class had no right to provide for themselves is the great Capitalism you speak of?
we (humans) have been bartering since we were in caves
capitalism (which is modern) is an economic system..... out societal system is a constitutional republic
socialism/communism/fascism are societal systems that are proven failures.......
its a shame that you don't understand the difference between societal/governmental systems and economic systems
even the system you keep touting....Catalonia.... had MONEY......therefore they were not economically communist..... in pure communism... there is NOT SUCH THING AS MONEY
Name one thing from Marxism that can be implemented without violence or threat of violence.
they cant
communism is in principle a doctrine elaborated in the 19th century by Karl Marx and Frederick Engels, and shown just how perfect it was by the founder of the Bolshevik State, Lenin.
Ahh, so the 1800s when Capital was controlled by a handful of men and the working class had no right to provide for themselves is the great Capitalism you speak of?
again you FAIL to understand the difference between economic systems, and societal systems
and the FACT that communism(a societal system) still NEEDS an economic system to run
but then again you have said you are an anarchist (correct???)... there for you don't really want communism..you want NO SYSTEM...
Communal societies in Catalonia and Even Burkina Faso gave workers the right to produce back into their own hands.
The system provides for people what they need but not in excess as the market does (which leaves the losers starving even if the land can provide for them).
those '''communal''' societies, still USED an economic system...capitalism (money)
even marx himself said that there MUST be a standard, an accounting, a measurement of worth
Quote:
labour, in order to serve as a measure, must be defined by its duration or intensity; otherwise it would cease to be standard.” Karl Marx
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We have 330 million people in America today. 120 million are laborers. 30,000 people are the capitalist owners living lives of fantastic comfort and wealth unavailable to everyone else.
We have 120 million people working balls out to ensure that the owners live in the lap of velvet luxury…while the Laborers themselves are barely making ends meet.
That’s the American story as it stands today. That has to change, pronto. We are all important parts of production. For a few to live as gods parasitically siphoning the fruits of the labor of others is tyrannical, disgusting, unfair, and yes, evil.
Corporate entities are tyrannical top down creatures. Capitalism plays that same song. I don't want tyranny in my politics. I sure as heck don't want tyranny in my economics.
I get you. Is similar to 'Feudalism redux'. Welcome to the prison break.
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A human being is part of the whole, called by us “universe,” limited in time and space. He experiences himself, his thoughts and feelings as something separated from the rest – a kind of optical delusion of his consciousness. This delusion is a prison, restricting us to our personal desires and to affection for a few persons close to us.
Our task must be to free ourselves from our prison by widening our circle of compassion to embrace all humanity and the whole of nature in its beauty.
those '''communal''' societies, still USED an economic system...capitalism (money)
even marx himself said that there MUST be a standard, an accounting, a measurement of worth
You have a misunderstanding of what you're talking about. Currency and trade are not in themselves capitalist inventions.
Capitalism: an economic and political system in which a country's trade and industry are controlled by private owners for profit, rather than by the state.
Trade and bartering have existed for many years, but industrial capitalism is a political and economic system made in the 19th century where capital is controlled by business men who mange worker production.
This is neither efficient nor reasonable as goods must be produced by needs, not for profits.
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