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Old 05-03-2018, 02:52 PM
 
Location: 23.7 million to 162 million miles North of Venus
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A person can spend most of their life doing things that are against God, yet they can change and become a believer at any time. Had trump 'seen the light'? I don't know, I'm not all knowing like God is and unlike others I don't pretend to be. One thing is obvious though, Trump did bring God back into the WH.



As for obama and 'His muslim faith', he had given many reasons why he preferred Muslim over Christian. The following is only a small few samples of the things he had said and done..

Had a monogram symbolizing Jesus' name covered during his speech.

Said "cling to guns or religion..."

Omitted "endowed by their Creator" from the Declaration of Independence when giving a speech.

He gave preferential treatment to Muslim refugees while basically ignoring Christians that were in the same region. Those Christians were being persecuted, tortured and slaughtered by the Muslims, yet they were overlooked by obama.

Had the term "Islamic extremism" removed from a national security strategy document.

He didn't host any National Day of Prayer events, but did host dinners to honor Ramadan.

Very telling, but, is obama a Muslim and not a Christian? Again, I don't know and you don't know, only he knows. And that is the very same with Trump, only he knows what is in his heart.
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Old 05-03-2018, 02:52 PM
 
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They used to be afraid to say Merry Christmas for years. I noticed that changed this past Christmas.
Climb down off your cross, PP. No one was afraid to say Merry Christmas, ever. And you know it. Don't you know it's a sin to lie?
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Old 05-03-2018, 02:53 PM
 
Location: By the sea, by the sea, by the beautiful sea
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Really? Just what other holidays are there in December other than Christmas and what is wrong with saying Merry Christmas when that's the holiday that people are buying for and talking about?

Well, it seems Chanukah often falls in December and and involves people buying gifts and talking about it. Funny what one may see if one takes the self-satisfied blinders off.
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Old 05-03-2018, 02:54 PM
 
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And some never consider their transgressions as 'mistakes' and have no idea what atonement even means.

Yes, some but you can't make that claim about Trump without actually knowing him, can you?
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Old 05-03-2018, 02:54 PM
 
Location: By the sea, by the sea, by the beautiful sea
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I've never once felt like a second class citizen because of my faith. Ever. Also, Allah is God. I realize languages other than English probably confuse you, and brown people with a different faith tradition scare you, but Allah is the Aramaic word for God, in the same way that Jehovah is one of the Hebrew words for God.

And no doubt shocking to some, there are more than 5,000 names for God in recorded history.
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Old 05-03-2018, 02:55 PM
 
Location: The Republic of Gilead
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Really? Just what other holidays are there in December other than Christmas and what is wrong with saying Merry Christmas when that's the holiday that people are buying for and talking about?
So what would your solution be? Fine retailers who say Happy Holidays instead? Arrest their CEOs? Stage a public execution?
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Old 05-03-2018, 02:55 PM
 
Location: Denver CO
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Really? Just what other holidays are there in December other than Christmas and what is wrong with saying Merry Christmas when that's the holiday that people are buying for and talking about?
wow. Just wow.

I guess some people really are so bigoted there's just no point.
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Old 05-03-2018, 02:55 PM
 
Location: Anderson, IN
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that is what disgusts me so much. To cheat on all three of your wives isn't very christian. To insult those that don't agree with you isn't very christian. To say things like "she's a nasty woman" and "ugly both inside and out" and "i grab 'em by the *****" isn't very christian.

Yet the man has the nerve to talk about how he brought the term "one nation under god" back?

And for the evangelicals who said they gave him a "mulligan" for his past transgressions, would those same evangelicals look the other way and give obama a mulligan if he cheated on his wife with a porno star and a playboy model? No, they wouldn't. Because evangelicals are hypocrites. political party before god.
preach
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Old 05-03-2018, 02:56 PM
 
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I think Trump learned this move from Stormy Daniels?
Maybe he didn't pay her for silence, but for tutelage?
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Old 05-03-2018, 02:56 PM
 
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Yes, some but you can't make that claim about Trump without actually knowing him, can you?

NO ONE can ever know with 100% certainty what's in another person's heart. But I can certainly look at his very well documented history of screwing people over and make a pretty damn good 'educated guess'.
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