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Old 05-06-2018, 09:01 AM
 
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I hope Weinstein is left penniless and in prison.
Yeah and we won't tell Weinstein to not drop the soap.
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Old 05-06-2018, 09:04 AM
 
Location: 500 miles from home
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You left out dirt bags Hillary Clinton, Barack Obama, John Kerry, Al Gore, Bill Clinton, etc.



“Are you really counseling me not to articulate principles I’ve been advocating for decades because they sometimes help someone you and I voted against?”


https://lawandcrime.com/high-profile...d-for-clinton/
Did he represent them all as their legal representative? He may have; I don't know.
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Old 05-06-2018, 09:08 AM
 
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If you believe that Dershowitz is representing the Defendant in order to make lots of money or to "get the defendant off the hook" for the charges, then you are merely demonstrating your ignorance of American (US) jurisprudence.

The primary purpose of a criminal trial in the US is to force the State to prove the veracity of its accusation/s beyond a reasonable doubt.

This is because our founding fathers did not trust men and or governments to always play fair.

As the defendant's counsel, the attorney (in this case, Dershowitz), is there to make sure that the State does not run roughshod over the defendant's rights, which are protected by our Constitution, and to make certain that the State proves the veracity of its accusation/s brought against the defendant beyond a reasonable doubt.

You should be very thankful that we have attorneys willing to do this type of work.
I agree with you, but the problem today is, many many people do not, they would be quite happy to see people like Weinstein executed with NO trial or conviction, all it takes to convince them is an accusation! Ive said it before, there are many americans today that would be happier living under a brutal dictatorship or monarchy, they side with Govt/ courts/ law enforcement instead of their fellow citizen...Its crazy!
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Old 05-06-2018, 09:11 AM
 
Location: 500 miles from home
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If you believe that Dershowitz is representing the Defendant in order to make lots of money or to "get the defendant off the hook" for the charges, then you are merely demonstrating your ignorance of American (US) jurisprudence.

The primary purpose of a criminal trial in the US is to force the State to prove the veracity of its accusation/s beyond a reasonable doubt.

This is because our founding fathers did not trust men and or governments to always play fair.

As the defendant's counsel, the attorney (in this case, Dershowitz), is there to make sure that the State does not run roughshod over the defendant's rights, which are protected by our Constitution, and to make certain that the State proves the veracity of its accusation/s brought against the defendant beyond a reasonable doubt.

You should be very thankful that we have attorneys willing to do this type of work
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And yet people went INSANE over Hillary representing an accused rapist. It was discussed incessantly on this forum.

They couldn't have cared less about the constitution. And she was a young, no-name attorney (unlike Dershowitz) who was told to take the case.
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Old 05-06-2018, 09:21 AM
 
Location: Asia
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And yet people went INSANE over Hillary representing an accused rapist. It was discussed incessantly on this forum.
You are misrepresenting the issue.

People were upset that Hillary laughed about the case, and IIRC, getting the defendant off the hook.

People considered her laughing at the case hypocritical, given her declaration that ALL women who accuse should be listened to and believed.


People were not angry simply because Hillary represented a defendant in a criminal trial.
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Old 05-06-2018, 10:50 AM
 
Location: 500 miles from home
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You are misrepresenting the issue.

People were upset that Hillary laughed about the case, and IIRC, getting the defendant off the hook.

People considered her laughing at the case hypocritical, given her declaration that ALL women who accuse should be listened to and believed.


People were not angry simply because Hillary represented a defendant in a criminal trial.
Then they were upset over the wrong reason as she was NOT laughing at the defendant but rather the absurdity of the law in this situation.

And they were upset that she 'got him off the hook'?

Isn't that what Weinstein is paying Dershowitz for? Will you denigrate him if the gets Weinstein 'off the hook'?

Or simply praise him for doing his job . . as you now are.

I'm not misrepresenting the issue. I'm pointing out the astounding level of hypocrisy .
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Old 05-06-2018, 01:33 PM
 
Location: Honolulu/DMV Area/NYC
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As Dershowitz has shown that he is a strong defender of due process and the Constitution, I welcome this move. Regardless of what I may think of someone (and it appears that Weinstein is a dirt bag), the state should still have to prove its case by going through all of the proper motions. If Dershowitz will help ensure that the state plays by the books, that is only a win for the Constitution.
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Old 05-06-2018, 01:53 PM
 
Location: alexandria, VA
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Even Weinstein (like OJ) deserves a fair trail and a good defense.

Liberals are starting to hate Alan since he's been on TV lately calling out the Mueller investigation.
By smearing Mueller with the Whitey Bulger case?
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