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Old 05-04-2018, 02:41 AM
 
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When we replace China as a trading partner with any number of eager ****hole countries, those living in these ****hole countries will have money to buy our soybeans.
Dream on. Those countries do not have the wealth and the demand that China has. How simple are we?
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Old 05-04-2018, 02:53 AM
 
Location: Minnysoda
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Most of the beans China is buying are from Brazil where the most productive farms are owned by...you guessed it, Americans or American company's...........
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Old 05-04-2018, 03:18 AM
 
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And this helps American farmers how?
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Old 05-04-2018, 03:28 AM
 
Location: Minnysoda
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And this helps American farmers how?
Because those company's are American Farmers...........This is a bit old but I know the Kid so I saved it.....


Brazil fertile with promise for U.S. farmers - Business - CNBC TV | NBC News


BAHIA, Brazil — It’s November 2007 and Tyler Bruch, the 28-year-old son of a farmer, is planting corn — the first seed of his planting season.

Bruch is an Iowa boy, born and bred — a true Midwesterner right down to the John Deere planter that seeds his fields. But this isn't Iowa corn, and Tyler Bruch isn't on American soil.

His farm is 6,000 miles from home — in Brazil
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Old 05-04-2018, 03:40 AM
 
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So it's no big deal because some of the farms in Brazil are run by Americans?

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Old 05-04-2018, 03:49 AM
 
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So it's no big deal because some of the farms in Brazil atr run by Americans?
The point of the OP (as I took it) is that American Farmers are temporarily losing money from Soybean sales. My point was that Americans are still selling beans.....Might be a moot point anyhow. Drought is still hammering Brazil, soy production will be in the toilet and the Chicoms will be back buying beans from the Continental US...
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Old 05-04-2018, 04:42 AM
 
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Soybean is a really hard bean, almost no use other than making tofu.

$16 billion per year revenue is big. If every $100k is one job creation, then that’s 160,000 jobs creation, or destruction.
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Old 05-04-2018, 05:05 AM
 
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Soybean is a really hard bean, almost no use other than making tofu.

$16 billion per year revenue is big. If every $100k is one job creation, then that’s 160,000 jobs creation, or destruction.
Actually, most soybeans are used for animal feed. Human consumption includes soy milk, soy flour, textured vegetable protein, soy sauce, ... Then there are uses like soy candles,

But not to worry about those thousands of farmers who will be out of work. They can move to Brazil and pray for rain.

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Old 05-04-2018, 05:16 AM
 
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Because trade wars do not always result in a winner, and a loser. Just groups that lose less then the other. There were better choices he could have made, and better tools.

I DO get it though. Unlike most I recognize the problem that China is. But im not truly convinced that the chosen method will result in increased prosperity. Something did need to change though.
Good post. The less informed posters here seem to think that there wasn't already a trade war going on, when we just started fighting back for once. It's going to get a little bumpy in places but to just keep rolling over for intellectual property violations, cheating on patents, currency manipulation and that's not even getting to things like dumping, tariffs etc.
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Old 05-04-2018, 05:29 AM
 
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Not sure when we've ever seen a country choose to boycott a specific product based on the votes of its source. Because U.S. grown soybeans are grown by typically Trump-supporting farmers, China just canceled over 60,000 tons.

China "very deliberately" not buying U.S. soybeans amid trade war

"...soybeans are "almost exclusively produced by farmers in the GOP's rural base who voted overwhelmingly for President Trump in the 2016 election"

https://www.axios.com/china-not-buyi...aab9fc1a6.html

China canceled a net 62,690 metric tons of U.S. soybean purchases in the two weeks ended April 19, the Bloomberg article pointed out, citing USDA data for the current marketing year.
https://www.cnbc.com/2018/05/02/it-a...ade-fight.html
The Chinese government does NOT care if it's people starve.
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