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View Poll Results: Your thoughts on minimum wage?
Keep federal, keep state/city 45 53.57%
Eliminate federal, keep state/city 13 15.48%
Keep federal, eliminate state/city 2 2.38%
Eliminate federal, eliminate state/city 24 28.57%
Voters: 84. You may not vote on this poll

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Old 05-07-2018, 03:48 AM
 
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Originally Posted by ohhwanderlust View Post
Seems like Scandinavian countries and others such as Switzerland do just fine without it.

Do you think states and cities would be better off eliminating minimum wage as well?

Well this poll backfired.
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Old 05-07-2018, 03:52 AM
 
Location: Texas
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False. Unions negotiate pay raises because that`s one of the reasons for their existence. They shouldn`t do this?
A minimum wage means employees and businesses cannot freely negotiate wage contracts. They shouldn`t do this?
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Old 05-07-2018, 03:53 AM
 
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Scandinavian countries also have amazing benefits. Not just health care (as most developed countries have) but family leave and 25 paid holidays. Crime is low as well.

I suppose the minimum wage will someday be raised to $15.00 per hour when it is worth what $7.50 is today.

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Old 05-07-2018, 04:04 AM
 
Location: Morrison, CO
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Government should not ARTIFICIALLY set wages, nor prices. The market should set those. It undermines business, and results in LOSS OF JOBS.
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Old 05-07-2018, 05:31 AM
 
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Scandinavian countries also have amazing benefits. Not just health care (as most developed countries have) but family leave and 25 paid holidays. Crime is low as well.
Just want to mention some points related to what you said, don't know if you agree or disagree.
  • Scandinavia has wage floors decided by the unions, it is actually more restrictive than the US minimum wage.
  • US can never afford scandinavian benefits at any tax level, and neither can many other european countries.
  • Crime in Scandinavia is increasing and is not that low. That is especially the case in Sweden.
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Old 05-07-2018, 06:08 AM
 
Location: St. Louis, MO
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A minimum wage means employees and businesses cannot freely negotiate wage contracts. They shouldn`t do this?
They're still free to still negotiate all they like... but they just can't go below a legal minimum.
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Old 05-07-2018, 06:45 AM
 
Location: OH->FL->NJ
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General note. The people pushing for elimination of the minimum wage are mostly at the top of the economic ladder.

Anyone want to guess the probability they are being altruistic?

Note several states actually love local control until it goes against corporate interests. See Missouri and Alabama.

Note I am not calling for $15 an hour. IMHO too high for many areas. Law should be a balance between the interests of business and labor. I would guess a minimum wage above 9 to 10 dollars would lead to significant job losses depending up area costs obviously. Then again, GOP congress and president means it will stay as is.
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Old 05-07-2018, 06:58 AM
 
Location: Live:Downtown Phoenix, AZ/Work:Greater Los Angeles, CA
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General note. The people pushing for elimination of the minimum wage are mostly at the top of the economic ladder.

Anyone want to guess the probability they are being altruistic?

Note several states actually love local control until it goes against corporate interests. See Missouri and Alabama.

Note I am not calling for $15 an hour. IMHO too high for many areas. Law should be a balance between the interests of business and labor. I would guess a minimum wage above 9 to 10 dollars would lead to significant job losses depending up area costs obviously. Then again, GOP congress and president means it will stay as is.
Obviously. Our minimum wage is now over $10 ($10.50 this year, $11 next year, $12 in 2020) and jobs are still growing. Our minimum in 2006 was the old federal minimum of $5.15 for reference
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Old 05-07-2018, 06:58 AM
 
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The money I paid in union dues was the best $40 I spent every month. Retired at the age of 54 with pension and medical. Problem?
I don't remember saying anything bad about the union worker
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Old 05-07-2018, 07:05 AM
 
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Who knows how much pay in general would go down from the result of no minimum wage freeing up the entire labor market? People working for $8 or $9 an hour, where the min. wage formerly was $7.25 an hour, may see their pay fall to $6 or $7 an hour.
Yes you are absolutely correct

But there are some people that are not worth the minimum wages, wages should be base on ability and worth to company, instead of a flat line item in an accountant sheet, you should have to earn your worth
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