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Old 05-12-2018, 05:10 AM
 
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Originally Posted by Ringo1 View Post
Straight outta the Nixon playbook. It's like he said it himself.


That said - let's remember how many indictments came out of the 4 year farce known as the Benghazi investigation. Oh, that's right - big, fat goose egg.


And her emails! OH MY GOD her emails! Indictments = 0
"That said - let's remember how many indictments came out of the 4 year farce known as the Benghazi investigation. Oh, that's right - big, fat goose egg."

Let's remember - let's remember the man who made the video is STILL in jail, the last I heard. WHY?

Let's remember NOBODY in the Obama admin involved in this has EVER recanted the attack was becuae of the video. WHY?

Let's remember the Benghazi investigation REVEALED THE CLINTON PRIVATE SERVER wish received, sent and held CLASSIFIED material which IS AGAINST THE LAW AND unlike the Obama admin did NOTING about it, is being looked at AGAIN and we expect a DIFFERENT outcome.

Let's remember the bogus Valerie Plame case where the dems screamed for a Special Prosecutor and after 2 YEAS NOT ONE SINGLE PERSON WAS CHARGED with "outing her'" becuae the FBI KNEW BEFORE the Special Prosecutor was appointed that she was NOT outed.

The DEM Special Prosecutor HAD that INFO and continued for 2 years ANYWAY. WHY?
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Old 05-12-2018, 05:21 AM
 
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Yes that must be it, the Clintons were protected. The Clinton Foundation and White Water investigations all failed because of her protection, lucky lady.


When you can't accept the fact that an investigation was completed without any charges then just make up some conspiracy to suit your needs.
" lucky lady."

Luck has NOTHING to with out.

The 3 Amigos have been connected ever since Watergate and been deeply involved in EVERY Clinton episode.

Who are he 3 Amigos you ask.

None other hen Comey, Mueller and Rosentesn. Which is why Mueller and Rosenstrein should at the least be REMOVED from the current investigation.

"There is a longtime and incestuous relationship between the fixers who have been tasked with taking down President Trump, under the fake narrative of enforcing the law. James Comey worked in the DOJ directly under Mueller until 2005. Rod Rosenstein and Mueller go even further back."


https://stonecoldtruth.com/muller-ro...he-deep-state/
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Old 05-12-2018, 06:03 AM
 
Location: Long Island
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If all the dots were connected it wouldn't have been a problem to start with the proceedings. Basically the charge was that they posted stupid things on Facebook. There is no conviction coming over that which is why these guys called his bluff.
Mueller didn't expect them to show up in court, the defense just wants information from the investigation they could care less about being exonerated. Mueller could drop the charges.


Amazing that people are rooting for the Russians over their own country, must be some rather large hatred for the FBI to root for Putin's chef.
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Old 05-12-2018, 06:16 AM
 
Location: Hiding from Antifa!
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Once again you are dismissing the impact of social media and the ability to misinform people. Leading up to the election Facebook posts were more popular than news papers and you don't have to search hard to find some very gullible and easily influenced viewers.


You can either choose to believe the intelligence community and companies or some other source, did you pay attention to Cambridge Analytica and others. The Russians actually had the ability to delete or change voting records for 20 states if you read my earlier post regarding the senate intelligence investigation.


If you think that the impact of social media is still a maybe then you are conflicted with the facts.
Looking at the demographics of who might be influenced by the content in social media, makes me wonder how you feel about the same demographics being in primary and secondary education situations where there is an extremely high percentage of far left leaning teachers and professors indoctrinating the same people. But that’s OK, isn’t it, since they are brainwashing them to be just like you?
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Old 05-12-2018, 06:19 AM
 
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Mueller is such a funny guy.
He reminds me of Kramer from Seinfeld!
Classic.
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Old 05-12-2018, 06:23 AM
 
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Lol...^^you two are upset.

This probe is FAR from over. All of the dots haven’t been connected yet, but it won’t be pretty when they are. All these payoffs and pay for play deals are gonna lead to something.

Have patience. You’ll see.
Whether team Mueller has connected the dots remains to be seen.

But the information we're seeing via Avanetti is not looking good for the home team.

ATT, et al obviously knew this information would be made public for a while as they have their PR statements prepared.
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Old 05-12-2018, 06:29 AM
 
Location: Pennsylvania
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Anyone who still believes any of this is a ****ing moron. A year and a half into this an no one has accused Trump of anything, the only indictments are for things that happened decades before the election or shortly thereafter, and the only things any Russians are even accused of are buying facebook ads.

Meanwhile, all of these conveniently forgotten about the Dems...

-Comey admitted Clinton committed a crimes and he chose not to pursue, which he does not have a right to do.

-Fisa warrents issued on the basis of a fake dossier paid by opposition research.

-Illegal reverse targeting, unmasking and identity leaking of American citizens by the Dems.

- CNN colluding with Donna Brazil to get Clinton debate questions.

-Wasserman Schultz resigning on the eve of the convention when it was revealed that they rigged the primary

-A tech scandal that we do not even know the scope of because it was buried.

-CNN proucer caught admitting that his product is "90% bull****."

- CNN reporters asked to leave for falsifying sources.

-DNC operatives fired for being caught on camera admitting that they send operatives to Trump rallies to start fights and film the retaliation.

-An assasination attempt against Trump during the campaign by a UK illegal

-Crazed Bernie supporter shoots whip and 4 other congressmen

-Rioting and violence in the streets by crazed, black masked Dems.

- Wikileaks reveals the rigging of polls

- The meeting between Clinton and Lynch during the campagin

- FBI texts openly talking about a "back-up plan."

And on, and on, and on.

This country is too far gone. Long ago it succumbed to open traitors. Personallly, I think Trump should be the last chance to put things right, and if this kind of **** continues, I hope he starts sending some of these people to Guantanimo Bay or the equivalent and letting them rot. They toppled the republic already. Why not admit as much and come out on top of the wreckage?
But but but, Stormy Daniels, 2006.
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Old 05-12-2018, 06:34 AM
 
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How far the Trump supporters have fallen, rooting for the Russians.
trumpettes as they are known will lower their standards for anything it seems.
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Old 05-12-2018, 06:46 AM
 
Location: United States
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Mueller didn't expect them to show up in court, the defense just wants information from the investigation they could care less about being exonerated. Mueller could drop the charges.


Amazing that people are rooting for the Russians over their own country, must be some rather large hatred for the FBI to root for Putin's chef.
This claim of people rooting for the Russians is pretty weak.

People know the indictments were dubious, the Russian company decided to call Mueller's bluff.

Nobody is rooting for the Russians, we just want to see if Mueller can prove these Russians did what he is claiming.

He he can, good.

If he can't, and only brought these indictments in an effort to legitimize his investigation, then we have a serious problem.
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Old 05-12-2018, 06:46 AM
 
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I read the Fox article. I also read this article:

https://www.politico.com/story/2018/...e-delay-570627

Note that none of the 13 indicted Russian individuals actually have come to the USA and appeared in court. None have been actually 'served' with the indictments in Mother Russia, and it is doubtful that Putin will allow such service.

However, three Russian-controlled corporations were also indicted, and the other day two attorneys appeared proclaiming that they are acting as counsel for one of the indicted corporations, Concord.


From the link:


"On Friday, Mueller’s prosecutors disclosed that Concord’s attorneys, Eric Dubelier and Kate Seikaly, had made a slew of discovery requests demanding nonpublic details about the case and the investigation. Prosecutors also asked a judge to postpone the formal arraignment of Concord Management set for next week.


The prosecution team sought the delay on the grounds that it’s unclear whether Concord Management formally accepted the court summons related to the case. Mueller’s prosecutors also revealed that they tried to deliver the summonses for Concord and IRA through the Russian government, without success."


Oddly:



"Mueller’s team sent a copy of the formal summons to Dubelier and Seikaly and asked them to accept it on behalf of Concord Management, but Dubelier wrote back on Monday saying that the government’s attempt to serve the summons was defective under court rules. He did not elaborate."


So, it appears that the two attorneys appeared proclaiming to represent Concord, made discovery demands, but will not actually accept service on behalf of the corporation.



Many herein like to know about whom appointed judges: this Federal District Court Judge was appointed by President Trump.



So, the Judge has, without explanation, denied Mueller's request to hold off on the arraignment of Concord until such time as proper service is made on the corporation. As stated in the linked article:



,,,"the move appeared to be a bid to force Mueller’s team to turn over relevant evidence to the Russian firm and perhaps even to bait prosecutors into an embarrassing dismissal in order to avoid disclosing sensitive information."


So, for our Russian fans: the Russians are trying to obtain evidence through discovery, without the individuals or corporations involved being legally served. It is odd: one of the attorneys for Concord, as noted above, proclaims that Concord was not summoned properly, yet said attorney still wants to be able to conduct discovery.



Note that foreign corporations, if conducting business in the US, are required to have a duly authorized agent, at an official address, to accept service. However, an attorney retained by said corporation may accept service in place of the agent, thus waiving service on the corporate agent. They may do so even if the corporate client has no US address, but must be served in their home country; here, Russia.



It would certainly benefit the Russians, and certain Presidents of the United States (not to name names) to be able to discovery exactly what evidence Mueller has, without the Russians et al actually being at risk of liability, whether criminal or civil.
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