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USA is the ONLY country in the world that separates asylum seeker parents from their children.
The ONLY country. And it does so contrary to international law. That's the stuff the Nuremberg Trials convicted people for, and "just following orders" is not an excuse.
Proud to be an 'Murican?
They are separating those who come over the border illegally. Anyone crossing the border illegally will be prosecuted. Anyone smuggling a child over the border will be prosecuted.
They are separating those who come over the border illegally. Anyone crossing the border illegally will be prosecuted. Anyone smuggling a child over the border will be prosecuted.
They were seeking asylum, not smuggling children over the border.
I am not disputing the right to asylum. I even made that distinction in my comment, they aren't recognized as asylum seekers... because they don't qualify. That little detail is pretty clear and important but you choose to be dense about it and keep churning this thing.
Let's get these givens out of the way:
Separating children from parents is bad.
When someone is arrested for breaking the law and are caught, they are arrested and taken to jail.
Children are not taken to jail.
Anyone can claim to be an asylum seeker.
Not all asylum seekers are recognized as qualified refugees.
Some of those asylum seekers, not qualified as refugees, choose to enter illegally.
Some asylum seekers probably never went through the correct process and choose to enter the country illegally.
Only parents entering illegally are arrested and have their children taken.
Qualified refugees entering the country are not separated from their children.
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Originally Posted by 2sleepy
Quit shouting. Applying for asylum after entering the US is perfectly legal, if your petition is denied you can be deported, it truly is that simple. I don't care if they are admitted or deported but the integrity of the family unit should be preserved.
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Originally Posted by max210
What is that process?! That's what I want to know. Can anyone can walk up to the border, literally get in line at the Tijuana garita, walk in to the BP building and say "Hi my name is Juancho Panzagorda" and they are whisked away to a special refugee processing line? Or do they have to file paperwork through their own government, and go through some vetting process before they are given approval? If it's the former, then why don't hundreds of thousands of people just walk up to the border and do the same? There are thousands of Haitians imst the Mexican border right now, they can't cross. Why do they do the same?
Even this cry me a river article makes the clear that they are entering illegally.
It's a horrible thing that when people break the law, they arrested and then separated from their children? This happens everywhere, since forever, is it backwards day?
What is the process. I don't think it is as you described. How does a person physically apply for asylum. Is it in the home country? At the border crossing? Somewhere along the fence? Is there an office in Mexico?
Yes, qualified refugee claimants are any refugee claimant. Are you proud that the USA is acting contrary to international treaties (which become the law of the land) that it agreed to?
How will other countries ever TRUST the USA again if they won't adhere to the agreements they made? You know, one's like Iran and North Korea.
Trust in the USA has been eroded in the world. Once a trust is broken it is very difficult to get back, Trump or no Trump.
So far, Trump has achieved Putin's goal of creating chaos in the western world.
That link did not show instances of actual people going to port of entry requesting asylum from an agent then being separated from their children.
What is the process. I don't think it is as you described. How does a person physically apply for asylum. Is it in the home country? At the border crossing? Somewhere along the fence? Is there an office in Mexico?
There are two ways to apply for asylum, affirmatively - which means applying while in your home country, or defensively which means you are applying after you enter the US. Both are legal.
She did not meet the qualifications for asylum and is being deported due to her CRIMINAL HISTORY thus does not qualify for family detention.
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