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What should we do with the children that are smuggled over illegally by their parents?
1. Send them all back as a family and hope they stay put? or decide to come via legal channels?
2. Jail the kids with their parents?
3. Put the family up in a Ritz Carlton using tax payer funds to ensure their happiness?
Just because you don't believe it, doesn't mean it's not true. Alternative facts are valid only to the Trump Whitehouse.
Estimates from household surveys from Mexico and the US census bureau.
We have no idea how many illegals come and how many go, and stay gone. If we could keep track of them we would be keeping track of them, no? The only real estimate of how many enter the country is through those who are caught and detained.
Oh, I wasn't aware that when another country jails someone for breaking their immigration laws or "entry bans" from overstaying, that they allow the children into the prison with their parent. Which countries are those, please?
The vast majority of them. Fun fact, there are several international treaties and agreements that discuss that the family unit shouldn't be seperated. Some examples? Article 11 section 2 of the American convention (we are not a signatory)
Some educational reading on this topic: https://scholarship.law.berkeley.edu...9&context=bjil
Not that I expect you to actually read it.
Foriegn countries do not do this generally. Why would they? Its a punishment that is unnecessary, and unwarrented. It punishes both the parents.....and children. Let me repeat that for some of you-you are punishing children for their parents actions. What sort of monsters are you?
Lets focus on moving them through the system and sending the ones back we should. But lets not try and punish kids for their parents actions.
The vast majority of the world does not have 50,000 people a month flooding into their country illegally or seeking asylum using their children to take advantage of the country.
Ahhh ignorance. Let me help you. You are correct they don't have 50,000 a month. They have MORE. in 2015 for example the EU faced TWICE that on average. And FAR more of them were entire families. 1.2 million people applied for asylum in the EU in 2016.
Do you folks even try and comprehend the issue before making such claims?
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It has become a problem so something has to be done. If you don't want to be separated don't come here illegally, don't try to lie your way in thru asylum and don't use your kids to garner sympathy so you can bypass the legal system.
This country separates families of its citizens everyday.
And we CAN do things. We can hire more judges, we can put folks in family detention centers just as we have done in the past, and we can make illegal immigration harder by enforcing mandatory e-verify, and passing laws about renting to illegals. Those are effective things.
But what we should not do is separate families. It costs more, and it punishes children and traumatizes them. These are the actions of a country that doesn't represent American values. Its immoral and will cost us more money. People should be ashamed of their desire to traumatize children.
Ahhh ignorance. Let me help you. You are correct they don't have 50,000 a month. They have MORE. in 2015 for example the EU faced TWICE that on average. And FAR more of them were entire families. 1.2 million people applied for asylum in the EU in 2016.
Do you folks even try and comprehend the issue before making such claims?
And we CAN do things. We can hire more judges, we can put folks in family detention centers just as we have done in the past, and we can make illegal immigration harder by enforcing mandatory e-verify, and passing laws about renting to illegals. Those are effective things.
But what we should not do is separate families. It costs more, and it punishes children and traumatizes them. These are the actions of a country that doesn't represent American values. Its immoral and will cost us more money. People should be ashamed of their desire to traumatize children.
Based on what's going on in Europe as a result of the above - why would ANYONE be in favor of this?
Get our own people off the streets and housed and fed. Get our own people who are unemployable trained with some kind of skill and get them jobs.
Helping the world while our own city streets turn into toilets, is insane and downright cruel.
Based on what's going on in Europe as a result of the above - why would ANYONE be in favor of this?
Get our own people off the streets and housed and fed. Get our own people who are unemployable trained with some kind of skill and get them jobs.
Helping the world while our own city streets turn into toilets, is insane and downright cruel.
I don't think you get it. I'm against illegal immigration. I'm all for doing things about it.
But im even more against traumatizing children for their parents actions when there is no reasonable justification. And punishing parents by punishing children does not seem reasonable to me.
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