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I reject the concept of "international law" with respect to the protection of our borders. I reject the concept of "international norms" with respect to the protection of our borders. The rest of the world, and all the people in it, be damned with respect to how they handle invaders and what they do to them, or with them, after they arrive.
We need to lead on this, not follow. We need to do what is right for our country, not globalist visions of political correctness.
Invaders should be bounced, including parents, kids, pets, plants, all of it. You either apply, and are accepted, or you are bounced. Invaders who walk across our borders should be arrested and detained. Without due process. Why? Because no process is due invaders. I don't care what other countries do, I don't the care what the UN says, I don't care what world opinion is. Ignore all of it and do the right thing. The right thing is to bounce all invaders that cross our border. Asylum seekers can apply at any foreign embassy of the United States, where they must be extremely vetted to make sure they are not terrorists, and to make sure they are not likely to be welfare-sucking leeches and social vampires once here.
Beyond that? You can't come. The Statue of Liberty is revoked. Fix your own country, don't elect or permit despots, don't subscribe to Socialism, insist on a Bill of Rights within a Constitution, insist on freedom, insist on individual rights, insist on the economic expression of freedom: Capitalism. Do that? You won't need to come here, because you will already have here.
So we agreed to commit national suicide by allowing anyone in the world to come here either illegally or claiming asylum? I don't think any treaty includes that. Do you know how much it costs our nation to support including educating these people? Why should we give them our jobs? Should we hand them all a SS number when their stay in many cases would be temporary?
If there is any such agreement/treaty then that needs to be changed ASAP as it's utter BS! Don't tell me about Trump breaking any agreements when Obama ignored our immigration laws and unconstitutionally gave a stay of deportation to millions of illegal aliens. He also told HS not to deport any illegal aliens unless they were "convicted" criminals. If that wasn't breaking our immigration laws then I don't know what is. You lefties are such hypocrites.
The USA is not only a signatory to, but it was one of the primary proposers of the United Nations convention on refugees.
Rights contained in the Convention include:
•The right not to be expelled, except under certain, strictly defined conditions (Article 32);
•The right not to be punished for illegal entry into the territory of a contracting State (Article31);
•The right to work (Articles 17 to 19);•The right to housing (Article 21);
•The right to education (Article 22);•The right to public relief and assistance (Article 23);
•The right to freedom of religion (Article 4);
•The right to access the courts (Article 16);
•The right to freedom of movement within the territory (Article 26); and
•The right to be issued identity and travel documents (Articles 27 and 28).Some basic rights, including the right to be protected from refoulement, apply to all refugees. A refugee becomes entitled to other rights the longer they remain in the host country, which is based on the recognition that the longer they remain as refugees, the more rights they need.
Again, not only agreed to this treaty, but the primary drafter of it. That treaty was approved by unanimous vote of the US Senate, which makes it law..
You might not like it, but that is the fact. And right now, the USA is breaking a treaty that it proposed, and it approved as required by the Constitution.
I think we ought to send ICE to philly and to where ever they are protesting, arrest them, stick them in holding cities, and take them back...period. Then revise the laws, and oversee them, and anyone who comes in on a work visa, whoever overstays, is sent back...we've got to keep an eye on these people.
The USA is not only a signatory to, but it was one of the primary proposers of the United Nations convention on refugees.
Rights contained in the Convention include:
•The right not to be expelled, except under certain, strictly defined conditions (Article 32);
•The right not to be punished for illegal entry into the territory of a contracting State (Article31);
•The right to work (Articles 17 to 19);•The right to housing (Article 21);
•The right to education (Article 22);•The right to public relief and assistance (Article 23);
•The right to freedom of religion (Article 4);
•The right to access the courts (Article 16);
•The right to freedom of movement within the territory (Article 26); and
•The right to be issued identity and travel documents (Articles 27 and 28).Some basic rights, including the right to be protected from refoulement, apply to all refugees. A refugee becomes entitled to other rights the longer they remain in the host country, which is based on the recognition that the longer they remain as refugees, the more rights they need.
Again, not only agreed to this treaty, but the primary drafter of it. That treaty was approved by unanimous vote of the US Senate, which makes it law..
You might not like it, but that is the fact. And right now, the USA is breaking a treaty that it proposed, and it approved as required by the Constitution.
Fact, not opinion.
Then it needs to be revoked. What benefit do we gain from it? The intent there was for those displaced by war or political persecution, not those seeking a better standard of living because their own country is a sh#thole.
National sovereignty takes precedence over international treaties. If the two conflict, our laws should prevail. And our laws says illegal entry is a crime. Fact, not opinion. ENFORCE THE LAW!
I think we ought to send ICE to philly and to where ever they are protesting, arrest them, stick them in holding cities, and take them back...period. Then revise the laws, and oversee them, and anyone who comes in on a work visa, whoever overstays, is sent back...we've got to keep an eye on these people.
Sheesh you do know that most of the people at the protests are not illegal right?
How pray tell would ICE go about that?
So, unless you are 100% North American Indian, then by your logic, you and your family should be bounced to wherever your forefathers came from.
Many of those North American Indians agree.
The Indians didn't have the concept of property ownership or national borders. There were no laws broken. And why are you even lumping all "Indians" collectively in one group? Are you racist?
Besides, look what happened to the "Indians"! We had best not make the same mistake. You inadvertently just provided the single best example of why we need to ENFORCE THE LAW!
The Indians didn't have the concept of property ownership or national borders. There were no laws broken. And why are you even lumping all "Indians" collectively in one group? Are you racist?
The First Nations people certainly had the concept of territory. You are wrong. Some tribes (mostly the plains First Nations) didn't have the concept of land property ownership. However, other groups, such as the Haida, certainly knew and valued private property. What do you think a potlatch was all about????
Aztecs had a very complex land property ownership structure, which would be recognized by feudal lords in Europe, although it was somewhat more egalitarian. The Mahican Indians in the Northeast possessed hereditary rights to use well-defined tracts of garden land along rivers. Many of the Southeast tribes practiced the concept of private land ownership.
Time to get out of your Ayn Rand thought process, and understand the real history of First Nations. It varies from tribe to tribe, and was not the ubiquitous "noble savage" who did nothing but wander around over the seasons.
We are digressing.
When did the USA become a non-welcoming nation, or at least, many of its citizens? When did it wander away from what many elected officials proclaim as "Judeo-Christian" roots, and denounce humanitarian acts? When did it become so callous, that it not only separates children from parents, but the leader of the country proudly proclaims this callous, ruthless, heartless action is justified and will continue?
When did the USA become a non-welcoming nation, or at least, many of its citizens? When did it wander away from what many elected officials proclaim as "Judeo-Christian" roots, and denounce humanitarian acts? When did it become so callous, that it not only separates children from parents, but the leader of the country proudly proclaims this callous, ruthless, heartless action is justified and will continue?
Per the bolded ---
The USA allows 1 million LEGAL immigrants per year into the country. And you actually consider that to be "non-welcoming"? Seriously?
You keep harping on kids being separated from their parents. Enough already.
Everyday, Americans commit crimes and go to jail. They are separated from their kids. Where is your outrage about that?
Those who didn't present themselves at a border checkpoint and make a claim for asylum and instead sneaked across the border, are the ones being arrested, then separated from their kids. This bothers you so immensely that you constantly harp on it. You, apparently, have no problems with Americans being separated from their kids when they go to jail, but whine when it happens to those caught sneaking into the US. Double standards much? By having double standards, you come off as a hypocrite.
So...are you saying that because the US expects those who want to come here to live do so in accordance with our immigration laws is somehow "non-welcoming"? And that arresting those who thumb their noses at our immigration laws is also "non-welcoming"? Do you think that those who came here legally like illegal aliens? If you think that, then think again. My former next door neighbor is a legal immigrant. He came here with his family when he was a child. He said his parents had to wait 10 years before they were granted permission to move here. I said to him, "Illegal immigration must make you angry." He said, "Yes, it does." And guess what? He was very happy when Trump won. I know--- that's a real shocker for you. Hope you are sitting down
Once again, many of these kids that are with those sneaking across the border are being trafficked. Yet, you expect them to stay with the adults who brought them here---no questions asked. I don't know if you are a parent or not but think about it for a minute --- What if it was your child who was abducted by a trafficker? And what if it was your child who was sneaked across a border and was allowed to stay with their trafficker because it was assumed that the trafficker was their parent? How would you feel?
So...Answer the question --- When are you going to go down to the border and offer to move several so-called asylum seekers into your home? You sure talk the talk but refuse to walk the walk. Time for you to put your money where your mouth is
As for the Indians --- name one country in the world that has never been conquered at some point in time. You won't be able to do so. If this troubles you so much, then plan a trip to visit all the graves of the conquerors so you can yell at them
When did the USA become a non-welcoming nation, or at least, many of its citizens? When did it wander away from what many elected officials proclaim as "Judeo-Christian" roots, and denounce humanitarian acts? When did it become so callous, that it not only separates children from parents, but the leader of the country proudly proclaims this callous, ruthless, heartless action is justified and will continue?
We welcome in over 1 million legal immigrants per year to the US, that is very welcoming.
People that are arrested go to jail. We don't put children in jail. Therefore they are separated. If I, as an American citizen, were to take my American family to Mexico, then crossed illegally to the US, my wife and I would be arrested and my kids taken away. Actually, social services would probably take my children away permanently for endangering my children.
This concept is not hard to grasp.
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