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Old 05-08-2018, 04:05 PM
 
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And now, they don't have to wait 10-15 years, they could start tomorrow. Best deal ever.

Better to have something in place, than NOTHING in place.
We can always fly a B-2 over their airspace undetected and say FU and drop a few LGB's on their facilities. Not a thing they can do about it.

 
Old 05-08-2018, 04:06 PM
 
Location: Self explanatory
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We can always fly a B-2 over their airspace undetected and say FU and drop a few LGB's on their facilities. Not a thing they can do about it.
Perfect.
 
Old 05-08-2018, 04:11 PM
 
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Perfect.
Israel did it to Iraq......nobody gave a ***
 
Old 05-08-2018, 04:11 PM
 
Location: Living rent free in your head
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Why should we agree to something that doesn't satisfy our requirements (i.e. denuclearization of Iran), but does satisfy their requirements (i.e. easing of sanctions)?
The sunset clauses alone effectively made the entire deal pointless. Ok, they can't develop nuclear weapons now, but in 10-15 years they can?? Why on earth would we write in such a stupid limitation like that?
I think any sensible person would agree that the deal was poorly architected. The sunset clauses and easing of sanctions on Iran benefit Iran way more than they benefit the rest of the world. Of course Iran is happy with all of that, lol...
Do some research, Iran never had a nuclear program for God's sake, there is nothing to "denuclearize". They have not pursued the development of a nuclear weapon since 2003, all this hair on fire nonsense about Iran's nuclear program is from Netanyahu. You should spend your time worrying about why Israel is trying so hard to push the US into war with Iran rather than be concerned with what Iran will do 20 years from now.

Israel has at least 80 nuclear warheads and the capacity to make 200-400 more yet we give Israel 3.8 billion a year for in military aid despite the fact that Israel has refused to confirm or deny their nuclear program even to the US, and somehow that's perfectly acceptable?
 
Old 05-08-2018, 04:11 PM
 
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And now, they don't have to wait 10-15 years, they could start tomorrow. Best deal ever.

Better to have something in place, than NOTHING in place.
No, it isn't. Often a bad deal precludes a good deal from happening. And the inspections were so limited that there's no way to know that hadn't already started on it yesterday, or if they ever stopped.
 
Old 05-08-2018, 04:13 PM
 
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Kim Jong-Un and the rest of the world now know that any deal the US makes is worthless. The US under the lunatic buffoon has NO credibility. None. We are no longer a country any other country can depend, rely on or believe. We are a big orange joke.

The war mongering troika of Trump, Bolton and Pompeo will take us down, and the senile old ghoul Giuliani is just a side joke.

Hope all you big brave Trump fans will sign up and be on the front lines of the wars that Bolton and Trump plan to start.
 
Old 05-08-2018, 04:15 PM
 
Location: Sonoran Desert
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And they will see heavy sanctions slapped back on them again if they even try that.

You forget that one of the main reasons Iran signed the deal back in 2015 was because they were being oppressed by sanctions...
Uh, they just did have sanction slapped back on them and they did nothing to deserve it. The rest of the world could well choose to ignore the sanctions. With the recent deals with Russia and China, who were reluctant for years, finally persuaded, and now indicate they are not on board with Trump, the sanctions are not likely to hurt them much anyway.
 
Old 05-08-2018, 04:23 PM
 
Location: Florida
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Kim Jong-Un and the rest of the world now know that any deal the US makes is worthless. The US under the lunatic buffoon has NO credibility. None. We are no longer a country any other country can depend, rely on or believe. We are a big orange joke.
The war mongering troika of Trump, Bolton and Pompeo will take us down, and the senile old ghoul Giuliani is just a side joke.

Hope all you big brave Trump fans will sign up and be on the front lines of the wars that Bolton and Trump plan to start.




Spartacus713--Is this your own artwork or just an off-topic copyright violation?
 
Old 05-08-2018, 04:26 PM
 
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Photoshopped pic of Trump with one of his tiny little fingers on Obama’s lapel.

I wish Obama could come back as our President. It would be so wonderful to have a thoughtful, dignified President instead of this fool, Trump.

I’d even be happy to have Mitt Romney, who is a good person—classy and a wonderful family man.

Hurry up, Mr. Mueller...
 
Old 05-08-2018, 04:27 PM
 
Location: Sonoran Desert
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I was wondering why Trump moved on this today. It is his theatrical style to wait until the last minute leaving everyone in suspense on weighty matters. Now we know. Michael Avenatti has released documents today alleging that Cohen received $500,000 from a Russian oligarch in the early months of Trump's presidency. We will recall that Cohen testified he has only two clients - Trump and Hannity. So, why are Russians handing Cohen hundreds of thousands of dollars? This could be the key that breaks the case wide open. Trump is obviously trying to deflect on this damaging development.
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