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Trump’s Erratic Threats to Bashar al-Assad
The President and his new national-security adviser, John Bolton, are in an especially bad position to respond to the atrocities in Syria
By George Packer
In August of 2013, the Syrian regime of Bashar al-Assad fired rockets filled with the nerve agent sarin at the Eastern Ghouta area, just outside Damascus. Within minutes, more than fourteen hundred civilians, including hundreds of children, began convulsing, choking, and foaming at the mouth, then died, of suffocation. President Obama reacted to the atrocity—which not only crossed but obliterated his self-described “red line” for taking action in the Syrian civil war—by having the U.S. military draw up a plan to destroy Assad’s small Air Force. Then, after deliberating with his inner circle, Obama called off the attack, citing a lack of congressional authorization and of international support. He later said that he was proud of having defied the pressure to look strong.
The implication is, possibly, that Republicans in Congress were blocking Obama - as they usually did - but now reversed themselves for Trump? That idea is so horrendous - letting thousands die, letting thousands flee their country, just so Republicans could stand stubbornly against Obama?
It was not just Republicans. This country is sick of war, fed up with the middle east and its unsolvable. Now Trump looks like he is fixing to start yet another war - this time with Iran. We will test your theory if Republicans in congress go along with him or the American people.
Obama made war on material. He warned enemy combatants to leave in advance of attacks so he could bomb their material. To him war was something to be dragged out in a never ending campaign to empty the treasury and weaken America finically. He put himself in charge of the battlefield 1000's of mile away like a kid with toy soldiers.
Obama was a idiot and huge POS. Don't ever forget that.
Trump’s Erratic Threats to Bashar al-Assad
The President and his new national-security adviser, John Bolton, are in an especially bad position to respond to the atrocities in Syria
By George Packer
In August of 2013, the Syrian regime of Bashar al-Assad fired rockets filled with the nerve agent sarin at the Eastern Ghouta area, just outside Damascus. Within minutes, more than fourteen hundred civilians, including hundreds of children, began convulsing, choking, and foaming at the mouth, then died, of suffocation. President Obama reacted to the atrocity—which not only crossed but obliterated his self-described “red line” for taking action in the Syrian civil war—by having the U.S. military draw up a plan to destroy Assad’s small Air Force. Then, after deliberating with his inner circle, Obama called off the attack, citing a lack of congressional authorization and of international support. He later said that he was proud of having defied the pressure to look strong.
The implication is, possibly, that Republicans in Congress were blocking Obama - as they usually did - but now reversed themselves for Trump? That idea is so horrendous - letting thousands die, letting thousands flee their country, just so Republicans could stand stubbornly against Obama?
What do you think?
Not our country, not our problem, not worth American taxpayer dollars. To say nothing about the lives of American servicemen. And there is still no proof that it wasn't the terrorists that we had been supplying and supporting in Syria that were behind the gas attack.
Trump’s Erratic Threats to Bashar al-Assad
The President and his new national-security adviser, John Bolton, are in an especially bad position to respond to the atrocities in Syria
By George Packer
In August of 2013, the Syrian regime of Bashar al-Assad fired rockets filled with the nerve agent sarin at the Eastern Ghouta area, just outside Damascus. Within minutes, more than fourteen hundred civilians, including hundreds of children, began convulsing, choking, and foaming at the mouth, then died, of suffocation. President Obama reacted to the atrocity—which not only crossed but obliterated his self-described “red line” for taking action in the Syrian civil war—by having the U.S. military draw up a plan to destroy Assad’s small Air Force. Then, after deliberating with his inner circle, Obama called off the attack, citing a lack of congressional authorization and of international support. He later said that he was proud of having defied the pressure to look strong.
The implication is, possibly, that Republicans in Congress were blocking Obama - as they usually did - but now reversed themselves for Trump? That idea is so horrendous - letting thousands die, letting thousands flee their country, just so Republicans could stand stubbornly against Obama?
What do you think?
Obama the "constitutional scholar" is full of crap.
Obama did not require "congressional authorization." He simply could have launched cruise missile strikes against Syrian air force targets.
Obama's plan to destroy Syria's air force was quite stupid, given that field artillery assets were allegedly used in the alleged sarin gas attack.
The destruction of Syria's air force would in no way impede or prevent future attacks using field artillery.
The only way to prevent future attacks would be to destroy the facilities alleged to be involved in the production of sarin gas; or the storage facilities for such weapons; or the field artillery launchers themselves.
Obama could also have attacked command and control facilities related to field artillery assets, such as the Fire Direction Control center, although that would have only temporarily degraded the ability to launch future attacks.
The crux of the matter is that Obama couldn't gather international support, while Trump did.
Obama the "constitutional scholar" is full of crap.
Obama did not require "congressional authorization." He simply could have launched cruise missile strikes against Syrian air force targets.
Obama's plan to destroy Syria's air force was quite stupid, given that field artillery assets were allegedly used in the alleged sarin gas attack.
The destruction of Syria's air force would in no way impede or prevent future attacks using field artillery.
The only way to prevent future attacks would be to destroy the facilities alleged to be involved in the production of sarin gas; or the storage facilities for such weapons; or the field artillery launchers themselves.
Obama could also have attacked command and control facilities related to field artillery assets, such as the Fire Direction Control center, although that would have only temporarily degraded the ability to launch future attacks.
The crux of the matter is that Obama couldn't gather international support, while Trump did.
Oh well then, that explains why the first thing Trump did was fire off 70 or so Tomahawks, at a couple of million per., to take out an airfield no one was using. I see.
One of the top reasons I voted for Trump is I thought he would keep us out of Syria. That was his campaign rhetoric. I am very disappointed. I guess the Deep State is who is really in control...they are pro-Saudi Arabia..so a war against Syria/Iran (and ultimately Russia) was in the cards no matter who won. Depressing.
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Obama made war on material. He warned enemy combatants to leave in advance of attacks so he could bomb their material. To him war was something to be dragged out in a never ending campaign to empty the treasury and weaken America finically. He put himself in charge of the battlefield 1000's of mile away like a kid with toy soldiers.
Obama was a idiot and huge POS. Don't ever forget that.
And spending multi million$ on cruise missiles to close an airstrip for less than 24 hours is somehow a winning strategy?
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One of the top reasons I voted for Trump is I thought he would keep us out of Syria. That was his campaign rhetoric. I am very disappointed. I guess the Deep State is who is really in control...they are pro-Saudi Arabia..so a war against Syria/Iran (and ultimately Russia) was in the cards no matter who won. Depressing.
Trump has a well documented history of lying and reneging on his word, it was there for all to see long before the election.
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