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I believe the last one will overshadow the first one and will only be brought up by Obama and Clinton, his newly besties.
President Trump opened many people’s eyes about the true MCCain.
Of course the President and First Lady should not go to his funeral and ignore his passing.
I can't agree with this; as in the wake of Watergate, (now 43 years behind us / Where did it all go?) the majority the nation seeks to be healed, and get on with life.
McCain, obviously, is no longer himself, and can't be due to Fate; best to let him fade from the scene and pass with the dignity he still deserves. Trump can help by not sinking into the partisanship, pettiness and short-sight which ought to be an embarrassment to all of us.
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The dossier aside, one thing I find amusing is the absolute 180 so many people have done with their opinion of McCain. Both sides. It's bizarro world stuff.
10 years ago, the left wouldn't waste a second in attacking McCain. Now they're praising him. I suppose politics really does make for strange bedfellows. But, is it because they've seen the light? Or is it because he doesn't like Trump?
And whoever said stop calling CNN/MSNBC/etc Fake news...The whole Fox is this or that has been going on well before "fake news" became a well-known phrase.
People don't always pick sides as it fits them. I've had a love/not-love feeling with McCain for quite some time. Since I historically voted republican, up until he ran, I don't think you can hang neat characterizations on Left versus Right. I was actually 100% behind McCain on his run against Obama. Then came Sarah Palin. I gave it some time, but she was so awful and McCain SO old, that I couldn't give him my vote as the campaign wore on and I did a total flip on my vote. First Democratic vote ever. Over time, I've gone back and forth on how I feel about him as a senator, oftentimes having very little to do with how I felt about a particular issue.
I think it's great that he turned over the dossier. Yes, I do not like Trump as president but that's not why I applaud what he did. It was his job, and ANY OTHER PERSON's job, to turn that over to the FBI. I would have applauded if it had been done by anyone no matter who is President.
I honestly can't believe that OP or anyone else here who is "mad" at him for turning it in is thinking objectively. What if someone had a dossier on Obama? Would you be happy if they kept it hidden?
As is too often the case in many political threads here at the Forum, the topic of a thread is predicated upon a false notion. In this case the falsehood is built upon the use of the word "false" used in the thread title.
Despite what the shrill tRUMP acolytes shout at fox news, we have no such PROOF at this time that the Steele Dossier was indeed a fake dossier.
Please get your facts straight before you present something here as a "fact".
As is too often the case in many political threads here at the Forum, the topic of a thread is predicated upon a false notion. In this case the falsehood is built upon the use of the word "false" used in the thread title.
Despite what the shrill tRUMP acolytes shout at fox news, we have no such PROOF at this time that the Steele Dossier was indeed a fake dossier.
Please get your facts straight before you present something here as a "fact".
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Do tell... what are "factual inaccuracies"? I mean, your link say's that in the very first few sentences....
Hated by who, you ? I'm shocked, I tell you, shocked. If McCain had accepted everything your goofy leader said and did, you would be loving McCain in every thread you post. But John has the integrity and guts to say what is right.
You may hate him, but most people, like me, respect and admire John McCain for a lifelong commitment to doing what is right for America.
McCain has a brain disease that's ravaging his brain. Anything he says or does now is suspect.
How many democrats or leftist coming to his defense now voted for him when he ran for President ?
Yeah, stupid question, no need to answer, he was soundly defeated mainly because everyone, even many on the right, knew he was a war monger. He traveled all over the world and was never in a country he would hesitate to bomb. People knew that and rejected him.
Now he is the lefts hero. Its as if his brain injury is contagious and the left takes no measures to protect themselves. We're all in with McCain now they say but we hated him until he joined us. %^&@^&*()
The first is the one that refused release from a POW prison because others had been their longer.
The other is the McCain that stayed too long in DC and became contaminated by it.
He will be remembered for both.
Well said. While I'm sure Mccain thought he was speaking his mind and being his own man he became bitter after losing to Obama. There were many times after that election I deeply regretted voting for him.
People don't always pick sides as it fits them. I've had a love/not-love feeling with McCain for quite some time. Since I historically voted republican, up until he ran, I don't think you can hang neat characterizations on Left versus Right. I was actually 100% behind McCain on his run against Obama. Then came Sarah Palin. I gave it some time, but she was so awful and McCain SO old, that I couldn't give him my vote as the campaign wore on and I did a total flip on my vote. First Democratic vote ever. Over time, I've gone back and forth on how I feel about him as a senator, oftentimes having very little to do with how I felt about a particular issue.
I think it's great that he turned over the dossier. Yes, I do not like Trump as president but that's not why I applaud what he did. It was his job, and ANY OTHER PERSON's job, to turn that over to the FBI. I would have applauded if it had been done by anyone no matter who is President.
I honestly can't believe that OP or anyone else here who is "mad" at him for turning it in is thinking objectively. What if someone had a dossier on Obama? Would you be happy if they kept it hidden?
I imagine that a lot of people were torn when McCain chose Palin as his running mate.
There was just no way that would end well.
It is odd how so many seem to think that McCain should have squelched the dossier to what, protect Trump?
Why?
If there's nothing to hide, why shouldn't it have been passed along?
McCain has a brain disease that's ravaging his brain. Anything he says or does now is suspect.
How many democrats or leftist coming to his defense now voted for him when he ran for President ?
Yeah, stupid question, no need to answer, he was soundly defeated mainly because everyone, even many on the right, knew he was a war monger. He traveled all over the world and was never in a country he would hesitate to bomb. People knew that and rejected him.
Now he is the lefts hero. Its as if his brain injury is contagious and the left takes no measures to protect themselves. We're all in with McCain now they say but we hated him until he joined us. %^&@^&*()
Another poster who seems to think only in binary terms.
It is possible to not want someone to be president and yet still agree with some of their positions/actions.
We see posts here everyday from Trump supporters who say that they hate his personal history but overlooked that to vote for him.
How is not voting for McCain but applauding him for doing the right thing on occasion any different?
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