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Old 05-11-2018, 03:03 PM
 
Location: West Michigan
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Corporations spend money on lobbyists in order to improve their business and increase revenue. Although its often seen as shady, its just an investment at the end of the day.
You're ignoring the fact that Trump's lawyer is not a registered lobbyist and what he was doing is pay-to-pay. Are you okay with that?
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Old 05-11-2018, 04:34 PM
 
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You're ignoring the fact that Trump's lawyer is not a registered lobbyist and what he was doing is pay-to-pay. Are you okay with that?

We see Trump projecting his crimes all the time.

"pay to play " was something he accused Hillary of. Trump also claimed the elections were "rigged".

It look more and more like Trump was laundering hundreds of millions of dollars, and accepting many millions of dollars for himself and his cronies.
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Old 05-11-2018, 04:37 PM
 
Location: Middle of the valley
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Lobbyists save companies money, and employees cost the company money, it's apples to oranges.

Don't get me wrong, I think lobbying should be curtailed in some manner, and I was never under the impression that giving the companies tax cuts would help the workers - but some did buy into that concept.
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Old 05-11-2018, 04:40 PM
 
Location: Buckeye, AZ
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No one at AT&T ever got a raise?
I thought those were one-off bonuses...
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Old 05-11-2018, 04:41 PM
 
Location: Long Island
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Wow.......

No one has shown pay to play with Trump.

Michael Cohen apparently sold access to Trump which according to the companies that purchased said access was never delivered.

There is zero evidence that Trump had anything to do with his attorneys cockamamie scheme.
It pretty amazing the things that Trump doesn't know, his own lawyer is accepting millions and never heard a word. Even Stormy Daniels got paid and he had no idea. He doesn't even know what Pruitt and Mnuchin are up to until after the fact, does he have a staff?
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Old 05-11-2018, 04:43 PM
 
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600k is probably 10 Times your net worth. When did 600k become chump change? If someone told you that they paid that much in income tax, you’d be apoplectic about how extortionate that amount is.
You utterly lack "context". $600,000 in some circles is a triffle. No doubt, they felt they would get a bigger bang for their buck this way, than any other way. You're just jealous because they didn't give to you, which would have been a complete waste, IMHO.
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Old 05-11-2018, 04:45 PM
 
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We see Trump projecting his crimes all the time.

"pay to play " was something he accused Hillary of. Trump also claimed the elections were "rigged".

It look more and more like Trump was laundering hundreds of millions of dollars, and accepting many millions of dollars for himself and his cronies.
Your hate-driven imagination has hijacked your common-sense and ability to reason. Prospects for their return, between slim and none! Hate like yours just doesn't die easily.
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Old 05-11-2018, 04:49 PM
 
Location: 500 miles from home
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Goodness, how loudly and frequently the right screamed about "pay to play" as it related to Hillary Clinton, but when showed unquestionable evidence of "pay to play" with Donald Trump, suddenly they're all, "Meh, who cares?"

It's amazing how Trump can do everything they complained incessantly about with other politicians, but they simply don't bat an eye at it when he does it.

Hypocrisy is obviously a prerequisite to being a conservative.
Goodness, Donnie did go ON about Hillary's alleged pay to play, didn't he?

Turns out he's presiding over one of the most corrupt administrations in history.

Oh well, live and learn Trumpsters.

Question IS - who can we elect who will NOT kowtow to monied interest?

Anyone?
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Old 05-11-2018, 04:52 PM
 
Location: Oklahoma
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There is zero evidence that Trump had anything to do with his attorneys cockamamie scheme.
So the fact that Trump met with the Novartis CEO within 2 weeks of taking office was just coincidence?
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Old 05-11-2018, 04:52 PM
 
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It's pay to play, and further evidence that Trump is not draining the swamp, he has a swamp of epic proportions orbiting around him at all times. And he likes it that way. That's why he wanted the job. Swamp Master Trump. Am I wrong?
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