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Old 05-14-2018, 03:17 PM
 
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That’s it, end the conversation, if you don’t like where it is headed. Right there with disdain, dismissal of any opinion not yours. How sophisticated of you.

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That's an "Op Ed". This means it's someone's opinion and they submitted the story to the newspaper. I generally ignore the Opinion section of all news sites and newspapers because they are subjective.
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Old 05-14-2018, 03:30 PM
 
Location: Eugene, Oregon
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Please not the opinion of David Brooks. He's wrong more often than Fox News.
I beg to differ. His is the only republican voice that I trust at all.
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Old 05-14-2018, 03:43 PM
 
Location: Old Bellevue, WA
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I was thinking about a related point lately. I did not vote for Trump in part because I didn't believe he was a conservative. After all he once used eminent domain to confiscate property for use by his casino, to me about as anti-conservative as it gets.


Yet Trump has governed as an uber-conservative, even appointing school-choice advocate Betsy DeVos as ed. secretary. We didn't even get anything like that under Reagan!


Dwight Eisenhower, after he left office, once told a writer that he was actually to the right of Robert Taft, who was a US senator and conservative doyen of the time. But Ike presented himself as moderate, almost kind of apolitical and disengaged, in his campaigns. It was kind of a triangulation strategy (long before Bill Clinton popularized that term). Richard Nixon said that Ike was the most devious man he had ever met. Nixon meant it as a compliment. I wonder if maybe Trump deliberately decided to tear a page from master strategist Ike's book.
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Old 05-14-2018, 03:45 PM
 
Location: A coal patch in Pennsyltucky
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Richard Nixon said that Ike was the most devious man he had ever met. Nixon meant it as a compliment. I wonder if maybe Trump deliberately decided to tear a page from master strategist Ike's book.
You're assuming Trump has read a book.
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Old 05-14-2018, 03:56 PM
 
Location: Old Bellevue, WA
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You're assuming Trump has read a book.
haha good point. I do remember Medved saying that someone asked Trump what his favorite presidential biography was. His answer was that he had never read one. But that doesn't mean that he hasn't independently re-created Ike's strategy.
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Old 05-14-2018, 04:06 PM
 
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You're assuming Trump has read a book.
Of course you can earn a degree in business administration in college without reading a book, right?
I swear you people that parrot this idiotic claim are so detached from reality... as if it lends any kind of validity to your toxic opinions. No it just makes you look clueless.
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Old 05-14-2018, 04:07 PM
 
Location: 500 miles from home
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They may be figuring out some things about Trump and changing their tune. I won't hold my breath on that - but obviously they, or at least this author, has been paying attention.

After opening about how Trump has had to deal with mobsters in the NYC business world...

Donald Trump’s Lizard Wisdom

There is growing reason to believe that Donald Trump understands the thug mind a whole lot better than the people who attended our prestigious Foreign Service academies.
North Korea

The first piece of evidence is North Korea. When Trump was trading crude, back-alley swipes with “Little Rocket Man,” Kim Jong-un, about whose nuclear button was bigger, it sounded as if we were heading for a nuclear holocaust led by a pair of overgrown prepubescents.

In fact, Trump’s bellicosity seems to have worked. It’s impossible to know how things will pan out, but the situation with North Korea today is a lot better than it was six months ago.
China

Over the past few decades, the Western diplomatic community made a big bet: If we all behaved decently toward Chinese leaders, then they’d naturally come to embrace liberal economic and cultural values and we could all eventually share a pinot at the University Club.

The bet went wrong. Today’s Chinese elites are polite and coolheaded, but their economic, political and military behavior remains pure thug.
Iran

I do know that the argument that many of the Obama people relied on as predicate for the deal is wrong. They argued that, deep down, the Iranian leaders are worldly sophisticates who, if we just gave them the welcome mat, would want to join our community of nations.

This is the vanity of the educated class going back for centuries. Since we’re obviously so superior, everybody else secretly wants to be like us. It’s wrong. Thugs gotta thug.
Read the whole thing.
Say what? The failing New York times? That "Mexican owed blog" to quote a favorite, but lately missing, poster?
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Old 05-14-2018, 04:12 PM
 
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Say what? The failing New York times? That "Mexican owed blog" to quote a favorite, but lately missing, poster?
wonder where she went- haven't been active here much lately; but did love smashing that poster on threads....esp when on this topic asking how she knew the Sulzbergers were Mexican....
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Old 05-14-2018, 06:03 PM
 
Location: A coal patch in Pennsyltucky
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Of course you can earn a degree in business administration in college without reading a book, right?
I swear you people that parrot this idiotic claim are so detached from reality... as if it lends any kind of validity to your toxic opinions. No it just makes you look clueless.
Yes, I suggest you talk to someone in college today. I actually heard students say they don't buy books because they never read them anyway.

There are also a lot of question marks about his time at UPenn. Do you know for a fact that he graduated?
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Old 05-14-2018, 06:49 PM
 
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Yes, I suggest you talk to someone in college today. I actually heard students say they don't buy books because they never read them anyway.

There are also a lot of question marks about his time at UPenn. Do you know for a fact that he graduated?
As far as never reading a book your pseudo student commented on .Do we have books on Gender Studies, African American Women in a White World. Along with a number Nobel Awarded Authors or are these just fillers for a worth nothing degree ?
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