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Old 05-15-2018, 06:40 PM
 
Location: Denver, CO
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I agree with Dems on:

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I agree with Pubs on:

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Old 05-15-2018, 06:40 PM
 
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By the way, I'd like to note that I also said "Republican voters in general", SOME of whom may be Extreme Right, others who aren't, but most Republicans do support Trump.
 
Old 05-15-2018, 06:43 PM
 
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What are the party positions on "boarders".
I don't know, but I'm not personally opposed to people receiving meals and care while staying somewhere in exchange for payment or work, provided that everyone's on the same page.
 
Old 05-16-2018, 07:25 AM
 
Location: Texas
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Its funny, but I agree with Dems on Marijuana legalization, national health care, I agree with Republicans on guns, immigration and the boarder. I think we need some centrists who are not far right or left.
How about we the people demand government defend the rights of the individual. Don't force healthcare on us it isn't a right, don't take away the right to self defense, don't take away the right to live our life unemcumbered by making a natural herb illegal.

It's always about defending the rights of the individual and preserving freedom.
 
Old 05-16-2018, 07:43 AM
 
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What are the party positions on "boarders".
I encourage everyone with a spare bedroom to rent out that space. Because, a nation without boarders, is no nation at all!
 
Old 05-16-2018, 07:49 AM
 
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In my opinion, most people are in the center. But, politicians need to pull in people on the far left and far right with certain stances (think: abortion).

Take me, for example: I believe we need more gun restrictions (let's not debate that here, there's like 50 other threads). However, gun laws are not my hill to die on either.

While there are many people that have one issue that trump's every other issue, I doubt that is your average American. The average person likely has different weights for different issues. However, we have this partisan split in the country because MOST politicians appear to be far right and far left. The only middle ground might exist in actual states and districts where the political divide is close to the middle. Those politicians walk a tightrope while trying to bring in fence-sitters.

I think the moment a state/district has a partisan lean great enough (5%? 7%?) that just go far-right or far-left.
 
Old 05-16-2018, 08:52 AM
 
Location: Cape Cod
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Trump's most reliable supporters are Extreme Right. Or just Republican voters in general.

Trump himself doesn't have any discernible, coherent ideological convictions other than what's good for Trump is good for America - which says a lot about the state of the Republican Party and this country's politics more broadly!

I do agree that most Americans aren't very extreme either way, or aren't consistently Left or Right. But then again, most Americans aren't very political to begin with, as evidenced by our embarrassingly low voter turnout in most elections.


I think most of Trump supporters are not extreme. I like Trump and consider myself a middle of the road type of guy when it comes to politics.

The leaders of the Democrat party are the extreme people.

Obama was making moves to "fundamentally change America" and knock it off its pedestal of exceptionalism and bring it more in line with the socialist Europe.
Hillary campaigned on the platform of extending Obama/dem ideals.
She wanted to increase the refugee program by 550% because "America needed to do its fair share".
This left the average voter wondering why we were vowing to help the people of the world when we already have so many that need help.
She wanted to work on immigration reform and help the illegal aliens, up to 20 million of them, to amnesty and a path way to citizenship.
This left the average voter wondering why we are rewarding those that broke the most basic of Americas laws.
Hillary wanted to rewrite the Second Amendment and turn America into a gun free country similar to what Australia had done.
This left the average voter concerned about the appointments that she would make to the Supreme court and the direction the country would go after that.

Trump campaigned on the basics of safety, security and economic growth and he has been accused of wanting to return the country to the 1950's. ?

In most cases what is good for Trump would be good for the country. A strong economy means more people flocking to his resorts but it also means more people working and spending.

Republican values are pretty basic.
Democrat values used to be basic but have now become extreme and questionable which leaves the average voter wondering if all the Dems care about is buying votes so they can be in power while the rst of the country suffers in between the elections.

Call them extreme and deplorable but for the millions that voted for Trump I call them Patriots that love their country too much to see it destroyed by extremists.
 
Old 05-16-2018, 09:08 AM
 
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They are actually in the middle. They just appear Extreme Right because of your position from the extreme Left.
Middle? Nah -- right to extreme right.
 
Old 05-16-2018, 09:17 AM
 
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They are actually in the middle. They just appear Extreme Right because of your position from the extreme Left.
I am an old woman whose first venture into politics was getting mixed up with the John Birch Society in San Antonio, TX.

It has taken 50 years for the Republican Party to become what was considered by everybody to be extreme.

There is not a dime's worth of difference between what the Republicans have morphed into today and the JBS.

They supported him. Nelson Rockefeller used the Republican National convention to defeat Goldwater by convincing the world Goldwater was JBS. He was not.
 
Old 05-16-2018, 12:12 PM
 
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Its funny, but I agree with Dems on Marijuana legalization, national health care, I agree with Republicans on guns, immigration and the boarder. I think we need some centrists who are not far right or left.
actually you should just spend more time learning about dems and you will find you might agree with them on all of it.

Just remove the lies spread by the right that are used to scare you into thinking dems want open borders and to take your guns. why? because it is simply not true, if you think it is, just go to the gov site that shows you what laws are past and when. Check out what the dems did or did not do during times they had control of both houses and the executive branch.... guess what they did not ban guns, or open borders, thus proving the right wing is and has been lying to you.

In the USA the democratic Party has been a right leaning centrist party since Bill clinton. But the right has gone so far right and so extreme it is driving the left further left...

for every action there is a reaction and all that.
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