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Old 05-15-2018, 09:39 PM
 
Location: The Republic of Texas
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Judge Overturns California Law Legalizing Assisted Suicide, Rules It Unconstitutional | LifeNews.com


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A California judge has overturned the state’s law legalizing assisted suicide, ruling it unconstitutional.
The judge indicated the legislature improperly passed the state law during a special session that was supposed to be specifically devoted to Medicare funding. The judge ruled that the state legislature should not have approved the assisted-suicide law during that special session because the subject of the law fell outside the grounds of the special session.
Euthanasia activists argued in court that assisted suicide is health care and that made it appropriate for the special session. More than 100 people have killed themselves under the law.



Interesting twist in the land of fruitcakes and lollypops.
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Old 05-15-2018, 10:16 PM
 
Location: London
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It's absolutely evil to force people in agony to prolong their terminal suffering.

It's as immoral as abortion.
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Old 05-15-2018, 10:17 PM
 
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Another idiot judge. From California of course.
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Old 05-16-2018, 07:40 AM
 
Location: Texas
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"The judge ruled that the state legislature should not have approved the assisted-suicide law during that special session because the subject of the law fell outside the grounds of the special session."

If that is true, good for the judge. Tired of the people wanting government to ignore the rules for their causes. Granted I don't know why it is illegal in the first place. Government doesn't own we the people lives. We do. If someone wants to take their own life get out of the way.
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Old 05-16-2018, 07:58 AM
 
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If a mentally capable person wishes to take their life, they should be able to do so. Maybe the only thing stopping them is being afraid of failure and living with permanent disability and then no longer being mentally capable, yet in pain.
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Old 05-16-2018, 08:02 AM
 
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Another idiot judge. From California of course.
Only six states allow euthenasia (Montana being the only red state). So that makes 44 other states and their judges idiots. Correct?

https://euthanasia.procon.org/view.r...ourceID=000132
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Old 05-16-2018, 08:03 AM
 
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It's absolutely evil to force people in agony to prolong their terminal suffering.
Nobody can force you to do that.
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Old 05-16-2018, 08:08 AM
 
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Well, so it was a technical ruling, not a ruling on the merits of the law.


We here in Texas also have 'special sessions' of our legislature. When the governor calls for a special session (usually just after the regular session has expired), the governor must list the specific issues to be addressed by the legislatures. It is not a 'free for all'.


Apparently, California has the same type of rule. I imagine (but I have not read the decision), the California legislature thought they could 'piggy back' the assisted suicide law onto one of the announced issues. Such is also commonly done during the Texas special sessions, with varying results.
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Old 05-16-2018, 08:23 AM
 
Location: Willamette Valley, Oregon
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"The judge ruled that the state legislature should not have approved the assisted-suicide law during that special session because the subject of the law fell outside the grounds of the special session."

If that is true, good for the judge. Tired of the people wanting government to ignore the rules for their causes. Granted I don't know why it is illegal in the first place. Government doesn't own we the people lives. We do. If someone wants to take their own life get out of the way.
One of the problems now is that the suicide may have accomplished their goal, but it's the friends and loved ones who may be implicated in their death. Not sure how that works.

I have an "Advance Directive" that spells out my wishes for care at the end of my life whether I can articulate it or not. I know how I want my life to end. I am very comfortable with that.
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Old 05-16-2018, 12:14 PM
 
Location: Home is Where You Park It
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"The judge ruled that the state legislature should not have approved the assisted-suicide law during that special session because the subject of the law fell outside the grounds of the special session."

If that is true, good for the judge. Tired of the people wanting government to ignore the rules for their causes. Granted I don't know why it is illegal in the first place. Government doesn't own we the people lives. We do. If someone wants to take their own life get out of the way.
The issue here isn't whether or not suicide is legal. I mean, how could you enforce that? I think the number of people who are concerned whether they are buried in consecrated ground to protect them from Satan or from becoming a ghoul in the afterlife is vanishingly small these days.

When you speak of 'assisted suicide', you are talking about whether it is legal for a physician to knowingly prescribe a lethal dose to someone who wants to use that dose to kill themselves. That's what's been illegal. And it carries very serious consequences for the doc and anyone else involved, including prison.

Of course, doctors have been prescribing lethal medications since about forever. "OK, Mrs Jones, I'm giving you a prescription for morphine to help you tolerate the pain from your inoperable and fatal pancreatic cancer. Just be aware that if you take more than the prescribed dose, you could die."

As it turns out, there are better ways to commit suicide than OD'ing on morphine. But in states where physician-assisted suicide is illegal, your doctor can't even tell you about them, let alone give you a prescription if you ask for one.

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