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Old 05-20-2018, 01:14 PM
 
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Even atheists see the evil in abortion, nothing to do with religion for them, just common sense.
Why would you make a woman have a child she doesn’t want? Who is going to support these unborn? Not these goody goodys who are vocalizing the need to ban abortions. Give them a bill for their support and let’s see how long they have their outrage....
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Old 05-20-2018, 01:23 PM
 
Location: 89434
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Which means the poorest will be forced to have a baby, thus increasing children born in poverty.
People shouldn't be having sex if they don't have the means to support a child, let alone pay for birth control or condoms.
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Old 05-20-2018, 01:25 PM
 
Location: 89434
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Except PP doesn't use federal funds to perform abortions.
You're right, they don't use federal funds to pay for abortions. But some states can use their own money.
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Old 05-20-2018, 01:33 PM
 
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Why would you make a woman have a child she doesn’t want? Who is going to support these unborn? Not these goody goodys who are vocalizing the need to ban abortions. Give them a bill for their support and let’s see how long they have their outrage....
Many women change their minds after they see the sonogram. I don't believe they don't want their children.
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Old 05-20-2018, 01:37 PM
 
Location: 89434
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I would so put it to a vote. I remember when Obama was in office and Republicans were saying it. At the time I was offended. I'm not anymore. I would agree to it no matter who was president. Half the country is in complete disagreement with the other half and both halves detest each other. It's never going to get better ever. Better to amicably divorce and save everyone the headache. Coastal states can grow their food locally and buy globally. Flyover states can do...whatever, I don't care what they do. And they can turn their states super right wing, abolish abortion, require religion, turn themselves into the Taliban. Because if that's what their voters want, have at it and leave the rest of us alone.
*Complains the country is too divided, supports splitting states from the country because of political differences
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Old 05-20-2018, 01:37 PM
 
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Exactly. If the crux of the matter comes down to conservatives getting foamy because they think taxes are going to toward abortion services, then a hearty accounting protocol should remedy that in an instant. Subject PP to monthly audits from a rightish accounting firm if need be.


But on a separate note, if righties are adamant about not paying for abortion services via taxes, can I opt out of paying for drone stikes that kill children at weddings on the other side of the world? I'm pro-life that way.
You need to learn the meaning of self defense. We won't drop drones if they stop killing us and our children. Plus the military is very careful about killing innocents. Many times they won't bomb a region that had innocent people that is why the terrorists set up camp among them. Our military won't do that.
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Old 05-20-2018, 01:38 PM
 
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Another reason to support BLUEXIT....


BLUEXIT
A Modest Proposal For Separating Blue States From Red

https://newrepublic.com/article/1409...mp-red-america
Then those living in Blue states should stay in them and not flood into purple or red states
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Old 05-20-2018, 02:24 PM
 
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"The rule announced today is legally appropriate, because it acts on the statutory language that prohibits Title X funds from supporting abortion. It is constitutionally sound, as the Supreme Court ruled in Rust v. Sullivan. And it is morally right, because it curtails the use of taxpayer dollars to support a practice that many millions of taxpayers rightly regard as brutal and unconscionable—a taking of innocent human life, and so a grave, avoidable injustice and a stain upon the nation’s moral character.
This is just a modest step in the right direction on federal abortion policy, but every step counts."


https://www.nationalreview.com/corne...pro-life-step/
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Old 05-20-2018, 05:28 PM
 
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You need to learn the meaning of self defense. We won't drop drones if they stop killing us and our children. Plus the military is very careful about killing innocents. Many times they won't bomb a region that had innocent people that is why the terrorists set up camp among them. Our military won't do that.

You're a hypocrite. You justify the slaughter of innocents in your misguided notion of self-defense. Apparently there's a theme here that US government can't mind its own business, not in the Middle East and certainly not in the uterus.


And who exactly in Iraq is killing your children? Who exactly in a hospital run by Doctors without Borders is killing your children? And which children are these? Links.


And the military is careful? One dead child is murder, right? That's what you've been preaching for pages. Let's take a look...


Between boots on the ground, drones, proxy wars, propped-up dictators and CIA interventions from Iraq to Bolivia, the US is responsible for the deaths of 20 million people since WWII. Hitler would be proud.

https://www.globalresearch.ca/us-has...war-ii/5492051

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This study reveals that U.S. military forces were directly responsible for about 10 to 15 million deaths during the Korean and Vietnam Wars and the two Iraq Wars.

But let's get to the bloody specifics, you know, the slashing to bits ...

Kunduz Hospital Strike:

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On 3 October 2015, a United States Air Force AC-130U gunship attacked the Kunduz Trauma Centre operated by Médecins Sans Frontières (MSF), or Doctors Without Borders in the city of Kunduz, in the province of the same name in northern Afghanistan. It has been reported that at least 42 people were killed and over 30 were injured.[2][3][4][5][6][7]

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On 25 November 2015, General John F. Campbell, the American commander in Afghanistan, spoke about the results of the investigation and described the incident as "the direct result of avoidable human error, compounded by process and equipment failures."[53]

Bir Mahall

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killed at least 64 civilians: 31 minors, 20 women, and 13 men.[1][5] The strikes were ordered when an IS convoy of vehicles arrived in the village late on Thursday night.
Nangarhar

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An explosion blasted the white Suzuki truck off the road, opening a large crater in the earth and flipping the vehicle on its side in a ditch. A teenage girl survived. The 10 dead included three children, one an infant in his mother’s arms.

The lone survivor of the Aug. 10 blast in Nangarhar province, and Afghan officials who visited the site, said the truck was hit by an American airstrike shortly before 5 p.m. Relatives expressed horror that U.S. ground forces and surveillance aircraft could have mistaken the passengers, who included women and children riding in the open truck bed — in daylight with no buildings or other vehicles around — for Islamic State fighters.

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Khan said he has little sympathy for Islamic State but cannot support the way the U.S. is prosecuting the war.

“The Americans say they are here to kill terrorists, but if they can’t carry out a proper operation, it is better that they leave us alone,” he said. “At least we would not see our families destroyed.”

Iraq - The Uncounted.

Since August 2014, 466 civilians have been killed. But investigative reporting reveals official US numbers are incorrect and underestimated.

And 2017 is bloodier than ever.


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“At least 484 civilians have been unintentionally killed by coalition strikes,” the United States Central Command, or Centcom, the military command responsible for the Middle East, said in a June 2 statement.

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Feb. 25, 2017, near Mosul, Iraq, via self-report: During a strike on an ISIS VBIED, it was assessed that five civilians were unintentionally killed.

April 13, 2017, near Mosul, Iraq, via self-report: During a strike on an ISIS VBIED engaging Iraqi Security Forces, it was assessed that six civilians were unintentionally killed when a group of fleeing civilians entered the target area after the munition was released.


And that's just a sampling of 38 strikes resulting in civilian deaths acknowledged by the US.


As new data is analyzed Trump's admin is revealed to be deadlier than Obama's.

According to research from the nonprofit monitoring group Airwars, the first seven months of the Trump administration have already resulted in more civilian deaths than under the entirety of the Obama administration. Airwars reports that under Obama’s leadership, the fight against IS led to approximately 2,300 to 3,400 civilian deaths. Through the first seven months of the Trump administration, they estimate that coalition air strikes have killed between 2,800 and 4,500 civilians.

And in May alone of 2017, 52 children were killed. Any tears and clutching of pearls for them? No, their deaths are justified right? Those deaths aren't murder? That's self-defense, right?


Under the Trump administration, US airstrikes are killing more civilians

So save your naive musings about the right and the mighty US only pulling the trigger in self-defense. My uncle still bears the wounds of torture taught first-hand to his captors by the CIA. Educate yourself.
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Old 05-20-2018, 05:46 PM
 
Location: Midwest
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Why do Dems want abortions----seems they don't want to support the poor when they say they do. Hypocrites.
Tell us where we can contribute to an account you opened with a starter 5K for the poor single mothers.
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