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A lot of the major corporations in this country can thank Communism for their success.
Under the Soviet Union and Communist China , workers have no rights and unions are outlawed.
Under Communism, all the major industries joined ranks with the government and were rewarded for it.
If we look at how close the relationship is between government and big business today vs the past, it is staggering.
Prior to 1970, there were less than 200 Lobby Offices in DC.
In 2018, there are over 5000 lobby offices giving politicians the reach around.
Also, majority of politicians are corporate whores that are put there by the same corporations.
China’s Great Uprooting: Moving 250 Million Into Cities
China bull dozed over 250 million farm lands and forced their citizens to move to the cities to make widgets.
This is a prime example of Communism in action.
American Corporations absolutely loved this since it provided cheap labor with no rights in order to reward shareholders and upper management while charging American consumers high prices the market could support.
Hence the rising income inequality in our country.
First, you'd be hard pressed to find ANY nation that was ever communist. What China did was not communist, nor was Russia from Stalin onward, nor Cuba, etc. Honestly, the closest thing you'll find to communism is probably small monastic orders and nunneries, where the people each own very little, they share the resources they have, each contributes according to his abilities, and each receives according to their needs (not wants - a common misinterpretation from the far right), and the leaders live about the same as everyone else.
Now, that being said, while "communism" had nothing to do with the success of corporate America, yes - run-away lobbying and using China as a resource for cheap labor and a dumping ground for pollution certainly did help a lot. But that technically is NOT communist, since in a TRUE communist nation, there would NOT be "slave labor" and elite ruling over them.
First, you'd be hard pressed to find ANY nation that was ever communist. What China did was not communist, nor was Russia from Stalin onward, nor Cuba, etc. Honestly, the closest thing you'll find to communism is probably small monastic orders and nunneries, where the people each own very little, they share the resources they have, each contributes according to his abilities, and each receives according to their needs (not wants - a common misinterpretation from the far right), and the leaders live about the same as everyone else.
Now, that being said, while "communism" had nothing to do with the success of corporate America, yes - run-away lobbying and using China as a resource for cheap labor and a dumping ground for pollution certainly did help a lot. But that technically is NOT communist, since in a TRUE communist nation, there would NOT be "slave labor" and elite ruling over them.
I understand what you are saying.
Human Corruption, not the system is the problem.
But, it can also be stated we are not a capitalist country either, nor has one ever existed for the same reason, if we go by the pure definition.
I understand what you are saying.
Human Corruption, not the system is the problem.
But, it can also be stated we are not a capitalist country either, nor has one ever existed for the same reason, if we go by the pure definition.
I've heard the term "crony capitalism" used to describe America, which is pretty accurate since it reflects the "sort of" capitalism we have, but with a heaping side order of corruption. To be fair, you'd be hard pressed to find ANY nation in the world without similar problems. Another good comparison I've heard is "socialism for the rich, capitalism for the poor." In short, if you're rich, the system bails you out and takes care of your needs, but if you're poor, well "bootstraps" and drop dead.
Now, realistically, any system will have corruption in it. Of course, we shouldn't just throw up our hands and walk away, but people also need to realize that some "glorious revolution" where the system is burned down also won't fix anything, really. Corrupt people will still seize power again because of their corruption - their willingness to do any dirty deed for power.
My biggest problem is with the far-right, who celebrates the inequality in this nation while licking the boots of the rich and stomping the face of the poor, and the true anarchists, who want to "burn it all down" while being too blind to simply look around the world at the bloody result of most violent revolutions and the soul-killing misery and poverty that almost always results from such hasty actions. A wise middle ground is needed; careful action, and justice for all, without exceptions for various clowns (such as the orange-haired road apple in the White House) just because they are "of my party / race / religion / whatever."
I agree. Along with lax labor laws you can include lax environmental laws. Also government subsidies, even more than we have here. And tariffs on imports which China has no problem with but foolish liberals (including many RINOs) in America can’t fathom because it will start “trade wars”. lmao. China has been kicking our ass in the ongoing trade war in which America has been cowering in retreat.
I've heard the term "crony capitalism" used to describe America, which is pretty accurate since it reflects the "sort of" capitalism we have, but with a heaping side order of corruption. To be fair, you'd be hard pressed to find ANY nation in the world without similar problems. Another good comparison I've heard is "socialism for the rich, capitalism for the poor." In short, if you're rich, the system bails you out and takes care of your needs, but if you're poor, well "bootstraps" and drop dead.
Now, realistically, any system will have corruption in it. Of course, we shouldn't just throw up our hands and walk away, but people also need to realize that some "glorious revolution" where the system is burned down also won't fix anything, really. Corrupt people will still seize power again because of their corruption - their willingness to do any dirty deed for power.
My biggest problem is with the far-right, who celebrates the inequality in this nation while licking the boots of the rich and stomping the face of the poor, and the true anarchists, who want to "burn it all down" while being too blind to simply look around the world at the bloody result of most violent revolutions and the soul-killing misery and poverty that almost always results from such hasty actions. A wise middle ground is needed; careful action, and justice for all, without exceptions for various clowns (such as the orange-haired road apple in the White House) just because they are "of my party / race / religion / whatever."
Good Summation Rambler.
Once you make it big, you have political and economic connections and doors that open up for you.
It has less to do with merit and more to do with corruption and, rub my back and I will rub yours.
Once you make it big, you have made it to socialism for the rich and are able to make others work for you rather than working for others.
This brings up a good point.
I had a conversation with a large group of people once about, if they were to be stranded on a deserted island and given the choice on who to be stranded with.
The options were a beautiful women, a talented handyman, a billionaire, and a hard worker.
Most chose the handyman of course.
Some chose the women.
Then some chose the hard worker.
The billionaire was the last pick.
Upon further questioning, the billionaire is only good when there are plenty of people to be taken advantage of and work for him.
A thread summarizing the supposed benefits of a system that murdered 100 million in the 20th century.
What, no "Learn how Auschwitz benefited the environment" thread?
I'm surprised, as its about the same moral logic (ignoring that the logic, as presented, is 8th grade nonsense beyond the moral quandry).
There are a lot of supporters of Capitalism that think the poor should be done away with.
Not sent to working death camps, but actually killed to save tax payer money. I have come across a LOT of people like this in the past few years, on the streets and on the forums across the internet.
We could have our own Stalin moment in Capitalism.
There are a lot of supporters of Capitalism that think the poor should be done away with.
Not sent to working death camps, but actually killed to save tax payer money. I have come across a LOT of people like this in the past few years, on the streets and on the forums across the internet.
We could have our own Stalin moment in Capitalism.
Jeez, what sort of people are you associating with. I know the top 1% probably feel this way, but most common men and women do not believe mass murder is the answer to saving money. I have literally never met anyone who professed views like these. And I've been on this earth for a good while now. I know certain fringe groups out there would love to kill off whole races of people, but again, they are on the fringe, and account for less than a percent of the people in this country. Maybe it's just my belief that most people are inherently good and decent, but I just do not believe we will ever see anything close to what Stalin did to his people. We, the people, would not stand for that. We can put up with a lot of nonsense, but we would not stand for mass murder. Americans would fight to save those weaker than ourselves. I know I would.
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