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Old 05-20-2018, 07:27 AM
 
Location: WY
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Originally Posted by ColoGuy View Post
Trump has, and will continue to do so, lost a lot of support recently. As the truth sinks in he will lose more support. This is why:
1) He paid a porn star for sex while his current wife was pregnant. That is beyond repugnant. Then he paid over $100,000 for her silence in 2016.
2) He fired Tillerson for wanting to honor a legal agreement. Then replacing him with one of the worst war mongers in DC.
3) He put one of the worst torture aficionados, and a proven torturer, in charge of Murder Inc., I mean the CIA.

Trump is War. That will become clear in the near future. This war may also be known as Iraq: Edition II. The exact same cards/lies are being played by the exact same players/liars.

Trump is unserviceable Debt. With rising debt, rising interest rates, and a large war brewing...the odds are great that the debt will become unserviceable. Think Greece x 100.
As a liberal, there are plenty of reasonable examples you could have given as to why Trump will not win re-election in 2020. The three you mentioned above are not them.

Until the D Party loses the crazy - until the old guard steps aside and provides legitimate breathing room for up-and-comer potential-stars in the party - until the media stops highlighting that "Impeach 45" moron at least once a week (she does the party no favors) - until the party can get Hillary to keep her mouth shut (she does the party no favors) - until the party stops demonizing "toxic males" and "white women who voted for Trump because their husbands told them to" - until the party stops quoting the bible only when it suits their needs (thank you Nancy) - until Hispanic SJWs stops doing the media rounds and calling those who want an orderly legal immigration process racists - until the party lap dogs in the media and at the head of our federal law enforcement agencies regain the legitimacy they squandered - until the party has ANYTHING positive, useful, hopeful or legitimate to run on - they will continue to flounder.

They're a mess. The Democratic Party is a floundering, screeching, finger pointing, hysterical mess. I'm not saying that as a Neanderthal, knuckle dragging, smug conservative. I'm saying that as someone who voted for Trump but also someone who deeply wants a number of strong, legitimate party options in this country. As Americans we deserve that.

 
Old 05-20-2018, 07:42 AM
 
Location: NJ/NY
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Originally Posted by natalie469 View Post
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Good grief, you guys control everything and haven't got anything done. Time for the dems to take over and reign Trump in.
These two sentences are conflicting.
 
Old 05-20-2018, 08:12 AM
 
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Originally Posted by PullMyFinger View Post
Trump hasn’t fired anyone for being on strike. Reagan fired the Air Traffic Controllers who were on a legal strike and had legitimate grievances. He hasn’t made any deals selling weapons to terrorists.

" Reagan fired the Air Traffic Controllers who were on a legal strike"


Really?


You DO like to make things up!


"
August 1981 strike



On August 3, 1981, during a press conference regarding the PATCO strike, President Reagan stated: "They are in violation of the law and if they do not report for work within 48 hours they have forfeited their jobs and will be terminated."


At 7 a.m. on August 3, 1981, the union declared a strike, seeking better working conditions, better pay, and a 32-hour workweek (a four-day week and a eight-hour day combined). In addition, PATCO wanted to be excluded from the civil service clauses that it had long disliked. In striking, the union violated 5 U.S.C. (Supp. III 1956) 118p (now 5 U.S.C. § 7311), which prohibits strikes by federal government employees"

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Profes...nization_(1968)


So, what part of, "In striking, the union violated 5 U.S.C. (Supp. III 1956) 118p (now 5 U.S.C. § 7311), which prohibits strikes by federal government employees" do you NOT understand?
 
Old 05-20-2018, 08:26 AM
 
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Originally Posted by GotHereQuickAsICould View Post
These constant threads and posts about how the Trump and the Republicans are gaining ground according to Rasmussen polling, got me to checking their web site.

Rasmussen, which typically leans right as they don't poll cell phone numbers but rather landlines which tend to be the older folks, Trump approval in January, 2017 was 57%. It has since dropped to 50%.

Since according to Trump aficionados, Trump has been bringing it as POTUS and is just days away from a Nobel Peace Prize, hard to read this as the Democrats collapsing.

Looks like Trump is barely holding his own even with the old duffers.

"they don't poll cell phone numbers"


"To reach those who have abandoned traditional landline telephones, Rasmussen ReportsTo reach those who have abandoned traditional landline telephones, Rasmussen Reports uses an online survey tool to interview randomly selected participants from a demographically diverse panel."


I wonder ow the "interview" them.
 
Old 05-20-2018, 08:35 AM
 
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Originally Posted by G1.. View Post
Now go take a look at how many Land lines are left in the country,trump is in big trouble.

"Now go take a look at how many Land lines are left in the country"


OK.

"According to this month’s report by the U.S. Center for Disease Control National Health Information Survey (NHIS), 45.9% of American households still use a landline phone as of December 2016.

https://www.textrequest.com/blog/how...andline-phone/

Just more "facts" pulled out of your asrse!

While the numbers are decreasing, there is STILL A WHOLE LOT OF THEM in use.


I still can't figure out why you think land line reduction will hurt Trump.


Then again, you DO stretch things a lot!
 
Old 05-20-2018, 08:44 AM
 
Location: 500 miles from home
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Originally Posted by juneaubound View Post
As a liberal, there are plenty of reasonable examples you could have given as to why Trump will not win re-election in 2020. The three you mentioned above are not them.

Until the D Party loses the crazy - until the old guard steps aside and provides legitimate breathing room for up-and-comer potential-stars in the party - until the media stops highlighting that "Impeach 45" moron at least once a week (she does the party no favors) - until the party can get Hillary to keep her mouth shut (she does the party no favors) - until the party stops demonizing "toxic males" and "white women who voted for Trump because their husbands told them to" - until the party stops quoting the bible only when it suits their needs (thank you Nancy) - until Hispanic SJWs stops doing the media rounds and calling those who want an orderly legal immigration process racists - until the party lap dogs in the media and at the head of our federal law enforcement agencies regain the legitimacy they squandered - until the party has ANYTHING positive, useful, hopeful or legitimate to run on - they will continue to flounder.

They're a mess. The Democratic Party is a floundering, screeching, finger pointing, hysterical mess. I'm not saying that as a Neanderthal, knuckle dragging, smug conservative. I'm saying that as someone who voted for Trump but also someone who deeply wants a number of strong, legitimate party options in this country. As Americans we deserve that.
Republicans are the ones who continually talk about impeachment - mainly because they know their base is demoralized and THAT is the one thing that might get them out to vote. Republicans are the ones who keep Hillary in the headlines because Trump's brand of victimization politics - need a boogeyman and she fits the bill. Along with any Democratic woman of age such as Pelosi and Waters.

No one is talking about identity politics MORE than Republicans as was evidenced in the last election.

The republican party has only their appointment of judges to run on. There is NO wall. There is NO lifting of the middle class; there is NO overturn of the ACA; there is NO Plan b for healthcare; there is NO plan B for doing away with the Iran agreement; there is NO plan for infrastructure. There IS a tearing down of our law enforcement agencies - all the while pretending to be the 'law and order' president. Our reputation around the freaking world has suffered under the erratic and juvenile leadership of Trump.

There is only grift (Pruitt et al) ; a revolving door of a Cabinet; a stinking, stinking swamp of creatures; and thousands of hysterical tweets from the ridiculous old man currently squatting in the White House.

You got your own problems, in short.
 
Old 05-20-2018, 08:51 AM
 
25,849 posts, read 16,532,741 times
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Originally Posted by Quick Enough View Post
" Reagan fired the Air Traffic Controllers who were on a legal strike"


Really?


You DO like to make things up!


"
August 1981 strike



On August 3, 1981, during a press conference regarding the PATCO strike, President Reagan stated: "They are in violation of the law and if they do not report for work within 48 hours they have forfeited their jobs and will be terminated."


At 7 a.m. on August 3, 1981, the union declared a strike, seeking better working conditions, better pay, and a 32-hour workweek (a four-day week and a eight-hour day combined). In addition, PATCO wanted to be excluded from the civil service clauses that it had long disliked. In striking, the union violated 5 U.S.C. (Supp. III 1956) 118p (now 5 U.S.C. § 7311), which prohibits strikes by federal government employees"

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Profes...nization_(1968)


So, what part of, "In striking, the union violated 5 U.S.C. (Supp. III 1956) 118p (now 5 U.S.C. § 7311), which prohibits strikes by federal government employees" do you NOT understand?
Listen, they were desperate. I knew people who’s fathers were AT Controllers. They had high stress jobs and were being forced to work an average of 30 hours a week overtime. People were burning out and getting fired for making mistakes. Reagan fired them to get a victory over labor without consideration.
 
Old 05-20-2018, 08:56 AM
 
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Originally Posted by lovecrowds View Post
President Trump's love for America is much more powerful than Democrats hatred of working-Americans and love of illegal aliens and pro-MS 13 policies.
Wow.

Four lies in one short sentence. Trump's tutoring of his minions is really paying off ...
 
Old 05-20-2018, 09:26 AM
 
Location: Houston
5,996 posts, read 3,734,817 times
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Quote:
Originally Posted by juneaubound View Post
As a liberal, there are plenty of reasonable examples you could have given as to why Trump will not win re-election in 2020. The three you mentioned above are not them.

Until the D Party loses the crazy - until the old guard steps aside and provides legitimate breathing room for up-and-comer potential-stars in the party - until the media stops highlighting that "Impeach 45" moron at least once a week (she does the party no favors) - until the party can get Hillary to keep her mouth shut (she does the party no favors) - until the party stops demonizing "toxic males" and "white women who voted for Trump because their husbands told them to" - until the party stops quoting the bible only when it suits their needs (thank you Nancy) - until Hispanic SJWs stops doing the media rounds and calling those who want an orderly legal immigration process racists - until the party lap dogs in the media and at the head of our federal law enforcement agencies regain the legitimacy they squandered - until the party has ANYTHING positive, useful, hopeful or legitimate to run on - they will continue to flounder.

They're a mess. The Democratic Party is a floundering, screeching, finger pointing, hysterical mess. I'm not saying that as a Neanderthal, knuckle dragging, smug conservative. I'm saying that as someone who voted for Trump but also someone who deeply wants a number of strong, legitimate party options in this country. As Americans we deserve that.

If you voted for Trump then you are part of the problems we are now facing. There's no way around that.
 
Old 05-20-2018, 09:35 AM
 
Location: Phoenix
30,373 posts, read 19,170,654 times
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Originally Posted by skeddy View Post
CNN got Trump elected and it looks like they're using the same strategy for 2020.
Well that's pretty true...can you imagine how low Certainly Not News (aka Stormy Porn Network) numbers would be if Trump wasn't President?
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