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Old 05-22-2018, 05:17 PM
 
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This is easy.


They're armed and your kid isn't. You were told and mandated to raise prey for the predators.


My kid was armed at school from the age of 16,(Sophomore) with her own .38 special.

No one had to know and now in college, she has not called me to let me know, someone knows.
You raise your kids and I will raise mine!
At least I taught mine to have a chance.
Are you serious!?! I think that’s crazy.
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Old 05-23-2018, 12:28 AM
 
Location: Jacksonville, FL
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Are you serious!?! I think that’s crazy.
While I wouldn't hand a 16-year-old a firearm and tell her to carry it to school, I actually understand where the poster is coming from. My daughters have been taught basic self-defense since they were old enough to go places without me, and we are now moving into full martial arts training. One of the main things that I teach them is that there is no such thing as being defenseless as long as you can still move. Every object is a weapon if it needs to be.

They have also been taught the non-aggression principle, and know that the consequences for them being the aggressor in any situation will be dire.

Why have I taught them this? Because personal safety is exactly that: personal. It isn't anybody else's job to guarantee your safety. The police have no requirement to protect you, nor does anyone else. It can be hoped that in an emergency other people will come to your aid but in reality, you are on your own. There are only two people in my children's lives that they know for certain will protect them, and their mother and I aren't always around.

Having said that I wouldn't hand my 16-year-old a firearm and have her carry it to school, both of my daughters know how to handle a firearm - and they aren't 16 yet. They know the proper way to handle, clean, and store a firearm. They know to never touch a firearm that isn't specifically handed to them by a trusted adult unless it is a true emergency. They know what a true emergency is, as well. While some people may consider this over the top, I'm a firm believer in self-reliance. I refuse to raise my children to be victims of anyone.
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Old 05-23-2018, 12:32 AM
 
Location: Texas
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Are you serious!?! I think that’s crazy.
Explain to everyone here why it's crazy to defend yourself against rape?
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Old 05-23-2018, 12:40 AM
 
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Explain to everyone here why it's crazy to defend yourself against rape?
A high school student taking a .38 Special to School? Yeah, I’m calling that crazy. I understand self protection, but that’s way over the top.
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Old 05-23-2018, 01:10 AM
 
Location: Texas
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A high school student taking a .38 Special to School? Yeah, I’m calling that crazy. I understand self protection, but that’s way over the top.
So she should carry a smaller calibre weapon? Why? What do you think is the best calibre for her?
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Old 05-23-2018, 08:45 AM
 
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The 'it takes a village' -- isn't saying hand over your kid to the village.

It is saying that in addition to good parenting, the village is also responsible for raising good citizens.

You know that whole -- if you see something odd, say something -- aha -- that's the village.

So parents can do their best at home, but we need teachers, peers, good community leaders, etc. etc. etc.

If you find fault with that kind of thinking -- and believe it is ONLY parents that matter --- I think you are being a little naive.

I agree.



I don't think the average person would have a problem with a community having a neighborhood watch. It's been proven to help deter crime. While there always a chance of incidents such as with George Zimmerman, how many have actually occurred?



Same idea with "it takes a village". It used to be that neighbors took care of neighbors. If I misbehaved, you (my neighbor, my teacher, my bus driver, my clerymen) told my parents. And unless you were KNOWN as unreliable, my parents would take action to make sure the misbehaving was dealt with and would never happen again. People always talk about "the good old days". THAT is how it was handled in the good old days. IT TOOK A VILLAGE.
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Old 05-23-2018, 09:27 AM
 
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While I wouldn't hand a 16-year-old a firearm and tell her to carry it to school, I actually understand where the poster is coming from. My daughters have been taught basic self-defense since they were old enough to go places without me, and we are now moving into full martial arts training. One of the main things that I teach them is that there is no such thing as being defenseless as long as you can still move. Every object is a weapon if it needs to be.

They have also been taught the non-aggression principle, and know that the consequences for them being the aggressor in any situation will be dire.

Why have I taught them this? Because personal safety is exactly that: personal. It isn't anybody else's job to guarantee your safety. The police have no requirement to protect you, nor does anyone else. It can be hoped that in an emergency other people will come to your aid but in reality, you are on your own. There are only two people in my children's lives that they know for certain will protect them, and their mother and I aren't always around.

Having said that I wouldn't hand my 16-year-old a firearm and have her carry it to school, both of my daughters know how to handle a firearm - and they aren't 16 yet. They know the proper way to handle, clean, and store a firearm. They know to never touch a firearm that isn't specifically handed to them by a trusted adult unless it is a true emergency. They know what a true emergency is, as well. While some people may consider this over the top, I'm a firm believer in self-reliance. I refuse to raise my children to be victims of anyone.

I can agree with most of what you have said. You should teach your children how to help protect themselves, there won't always be a police officer around when you need them, however, "To protect and to serve" is the police motto. And while you of coarse will always attempt to protect them, sadly you can never guarantee that you can protect them. That is why they need to know how to try to protect themselves, even if you and your wife are around.
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