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Old 05-21-2018, 01:15 AM
 
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US elites very similar to UK elites who can't accept Brexit and do everything to obstruct and fool the people, EU no different.

Interesting how similar elites are whether its the US, UK, or EU. Its all about money, power, and control the world over. And they don't care about you.

UK political elites accused of blocking Brexit | On Air Videos | Fox News

https://www.nytimes.com/2018/01/09/w...reshuffle.html

The European Commission, the European Union’s executive arm, used the most powerful threat in its arsenal to pressure Poland from continuing on a path it viewed as undermining the rule of law and democratic values, invoking Article 7 of the European Union’s founding treaty, which could strip Poland of its voting rights.
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Old 05-21-2018, 02:40 AM
 
Location: England
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The EU reminds me of the book 'Animal Farm'. All are equal, but some are more equal than others.

It's a rocky road, but there are enough patriots left in Parliament to not allow elitists to undermine the will of the people.

We will leave the EU, whether they like it or not. Time we had a government working for the British people's interests, instead of trying to feather their nests.

Politicians are the same whether it's here, the US, or in Europe. Only concerned with themselves. The majority who voted to leave the EU, are watching, and waiting.
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Old 05-21-2018, 04:07 AM
 
Location: Great Britain
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They can't block Brexit, indeed the House of Lords can only delay legislation by up to a year and don't have that much power.

As for the House of Commons they will have a vote on the deal we reach, however even if we they vote against it we still leave, it would just mean that a Hard Brexit would be the order of the day.

Most of the remainers do not want a Hard Brexit, so they are very much going to have a bit of a moral dilema.

It also should be noted that a lot of the political elite on the right never liked the EU, and the prospect of a hard Brexit would please the like of Jacob Ress-Mogg and many others.
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Old 05-21-2018, 06:24 AM
 
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If they find that Cambridge Analytical had a lot to do with the election results, they could issue a another vote.
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Old 05-21-2018, 06:40 AM
 
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Another similarity. They both used Cambridge Analytica.
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Old 05-21-2018, 06:50 AM
 
Location: Great Britain
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If they find that Cambridge Analytical had a lot to do with the election results, they could issue a another vote.
The Electrol Commision has already looked in to this and published a report.

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Originally Posted by The Guardian

The Electoral Commission’s report largely bears this out, concluding that Leave.EU was largely bluffing about its use of Cambridge Analytica, in an attempt to make its campaign look more sophisticated.

The report also suggests that the Cambridge Analytica boss, Alexander Nix, overstated his company’s association with Leave.EU in public, in the hope of winning business from the campaign group.

The investigation states that despite public statements by the organisations involved there is no evidence that Cambridge Analytica had input into the Leave.EU campaign during the regulated period and “the relationship did not develop beyond initial scoping work”.

Instead, the data targeting company privately asked Leave.EU to stop using its name in public, fearing the association could cause it reputational damage.

What did Leave.EU do wrong, and could its breaches stop Brexit? - The Guardian


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Old 05-21-2018, 06:56 AM
 
Location: Great Britain
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The EU reminds me of the book 'Animal Farm'. All are equal, but some are more equal than others.

It's a rocky road, but there are enough patriots left in Parliament to not allow elitists to undermine the will of the people.

We will leave the EU, whether they like it or not. Time we had a government working for the British people's interests, instead of trying to feather their nests.

Politicians are the same whether it's here, the US, or in Europe. Only concerned with themselves. The majority who voted to leave the EU, are watching, and waiting.
What normal happens in the UK Parliament is that the Chief Whips have a quiet word with some of the rebels.

You know the type of thing, vote with us or the photograph of you and that sheep wil be leaked to the press.

Lots of so called 'Black Books' and sadety deposit boxes filled with incriminating evidence.

The dark world of government whips, 'the black book' and the Westminster sexual harassment scandal - Business Insider UK
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Old 05-21-2018, 07:03 AM
 
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Is March 29, 2019 still the official Brexit date according to the EU?

So if the UK can't come up with terms that the EU will agree to, a "hard exit" was will occur, with the UK leaving the customs union and the single market on that date.

Is that correct?

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Old 05-21-2018, 07:04 AM
 
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Oh my heavens. Did you read the NYTs link. Say it ain't so!!!!!

Yes, the European Union is trying to preserve the rule of law and democracy in Poland and halt its slide into fascism!

Who does the EU think they are????

Western democracies?
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Old 05-21-2018, 08:13 AM
 
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Oh my heavens. Did you read the NYTs link. Say it ain't so!!!!!

Yes, the European Union is trying to preserve the rule of law and democracy in Poland and halt its slide into fascism!

Who does the EU think they are????

Western democracies?

I don't want Poland to slide into fascism but it seems to me if the EU can take away voting rights of a sovereign nation well that does not seem like democracy to me.
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