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Old 05-22-2018, 07:47 AM
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Location: Great Britain
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This isn't the UK. Obviously, our system is very different.
The US adopted the Jury sysyem from the UK.

History of trial by jury in England - Wikipedia

"No free man shall be captured or imprisoned or disseised of his freehold or of his liberties, or of his free customs, or be outlawed or exiled or in any way destroyed, nor will we proceed against him by force or proceed against him by arms, but by the lawful judgment of his peers or by the law of the land."

Magna Carta 1215
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Old 05-22-2018, 11:52 AM
 
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I've been called for jury duty 5 times, and never made it past voir dire on day one. If either of the attorneys (or their teams) finds that they cannot confuse you by asking essentially the same question twice in different ways to try to elicit differing answers during the voir dire process, they'll strike you and you're dismissed. Both sides want jurors they can easily manipulate intellectually.

i frustrate lawyers by seeing through their tactics.
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Old 05-22-2018, 12:22 PM
 
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i frustrate lawyers by seeing through their tactics.
If you frustrate a lawyer, they'll just replace you with an alternate. The last thing a lawyer wants is someone on the jury that's causing issues of any kind.
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Old 05-22-2018, 12:24 PM
 
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jury duty caused a big kink in my work schedule, the one time I was picked to serve, for three days when I was working 12 hours a day, 6 days a week. serving on that jury cost me and my employer very valuable time. the trial involved a young man claiming he was rendered impotent because a vehicle rear ended him in an accident at low speed. the trial was amusing, but so stupid. NOT worth my time for a frivolous lawsuit that should never have made it to court. that is why.
Jury duty devastates a store/shop owner who runs their own business. But I also think that during the jury selection process, if a store or shop owner brings that up, 9 times out of 10, they will be excused. The courts don't really want anyone on a jury who may want to just enter a verdict as soon as possible just so they can get back to running their business. I've participated in the jury selection process at least four to five times where I would hear potential jurors mention that they own/run a shop/business without anyone to replace them while they are on jury duty. The judge would ask for documents as proof of the claim and sure enough, at some point one of the lawyers would request that person be excused from the selection process.
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Old 05-22-2018, 12:24 PM
 
Location: Texas
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Costs me a lot of money and I'm never picked (thank god).
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Old 05-22-2018, 12:25 PM
 
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I'm not sure where to put this, so mods please move if this isn't the right place. I got my jury summons two weeks ago and am scheduled to serve tomorrow at my local criminal court. When I told my friends, they gave me all sorts of suggestions on excuses I could invent to get out of it. Why? Why do people hate jury duty so much? I'm looking forward to it. My last service ended in a plea bargain, so I ended up not doing anything but sitting and waiting three hours. I am going tomorrow and will not try to avoid it through my attitudes or excuses. I can understand needing to avoid it for financial reasons, but other than that, people seem to hate it for reasons they can't identify. Is hating jury duty the American way, like hating paying taxes?

We hate it because the pay is a fraction I earn at my job. I shouldn't have my income impacted to do my civic duty.
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Old 05-22-2018, 12:27 PM
 
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Luckily the only time I was called for one I was dismissed.

I can't imagine sitting in a courtroom getting a boring case, nothing at all like the drama you see in courtroom dramas on TV and the movies.

I was called once and the case was plea-bargained right before the trial was to start. We were paid the daily stipend and dismissed after the judge explained what happened and thanked us for showing up.
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Old 05-22-2018, 12:28 PM
 
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Not all employers pay for jury duty so it can be a serious financial hit. But it's inefficient, boring, and uncomfortable...like many government jobs.

I don't know how anyone gets convicted of anything with most of the population exposed to the "CSI effect" when real life forensics is far from that.
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Old 05-22-2018, 12:31 PM
 
Location: Elysium
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Not sure why you would get caled every 18 months.

In the UK, 90% of criminal cases are dealt with by the Magistrates, they usually consist of a panel of paid volunteer lay people and a District Judge.

Minor criminal cases are triable only in the Magistrates, some are triable either way and you can opt for a Jury Trial at the Crown Court if you so wish, whilst more serious criminal cases are automatically referred to the Crown Courts to be heard by a Jury.

You can be tried in Crown Court without a jury in the UK in exceptional circumstances, these circumstances being in relation to complex fraud cases and where it is believed Jury tampering may take place due to organised crime or other such influences. In 1973 Northern Ireland juries were replaced by 'Diplock Courts' which operated without a Jury until 2006. The double jeopardy law was also scrapped in the UK under the Criminal Justice Act 2003 and you can now be re-tried if new enidence comes to light.

Trials without a jury - Wikipedia

Juries to return as Diplock courts axed - Telegraph

The year and a day rule was also scrapped in the UK in 1996.

Year and a day rule - Wikipedia
Because unless the defendant agrees he gets 12 jurors. Most states allow for fewer in Civil trials. Los Angeles County is one of those once every 18 months jury summons locations. We only get out if the federal government's jury got you in the interim period
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Old 05-22-2018, 12:57 PM
 
Location: Long Island
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This isn't the UK. Obviously, our system is very different.
Every 18 months would be a problem for most, in NY people only get called a few times over their lifetime.
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