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Old 05-21-2018, 09:32 PM
 
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Starbucks has decided to be an adult daycare and no-charge hostel, not a great business model.

Not an investor, nor will I ever be while this policy is in force. It cannot help them.

No successful eating establishment can survive for long with this kind of policy. Starbucks is not immune to the tragedy of the commons and the fact that it thinks it is....is going to provide lots of entertainment in the future.

Move over, People of Walmart, here comes the People of Starbucks!

Coming soon to a poop map near you!
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Old 05-21-2018, 09:39 PM
 
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Why thank you. We all know the starbucks bathroom is always the cleanest around.
Starbucks policy has basically guaranteed that many of its stores will become a biohazard.

When Starbucks has to pay the inevitable settlements from the Hep C/E-Coli/insert any pathogen here epidemic that it someday will foster in its locations, or the "unsafe premises" suits, they will change their tune.

And by then it will be too late for the brand and for the investors who will lose their shirts.
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Old 05-21-2018, 09:46 PM
 
Location: Chicago, IL
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This policy is stupid.

They are opening their doors to loitering. I wonder how this will impact them in the long run?
This has always been their policy until the racist gaggle started making up stories about how Starbucks operates to justify two black guys getting singled out.

They forced Starbucks to double down on their policy by explicitly stating "Hey you idiots! Of course we let people sit on our store without buying anything."

This is a perfect example of why racism is dumb. It makes people turn off their ability to process information. Then everybody else has to dumb the conversation down so that they can follow along.
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Old 05-21-2018, 09:49 PM
 
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Clearly some of you don't know, so let me break it down for you like a fraction.


While it does vary by location, in many parts of the USA Starbucks, McDonald's and or any other such place have become de facto senior/elderly centers, after school hang outs, libraries, homeless shelters, "home" offices, mommie/Kaffe Klatch metting places, and so forth. Things only became worse when SB began offering free WiFi.


People go to SB and sit there for *HOURS*. Using the free WiFi, chatting with their friends at *their* table, working, doing homework, reading the newspapers that are supposed to be for sale, and so forth. All this from buying maybe one drink or whatever, if that.


When SB closes people simply set up camp outside; sitting on ground, standing or whatever to use the free WiFi.


Barnes and Noble book stores here along with a host of other places have the same problems. People set up camp for whatever reasons and treat the place like an adult/senior center, library, afterschool spot, etc... They open all the new shrink wrapped books, read magazines etc... Then head off to use the bathrooms in order to bathe, brush their teeth and otherwise get ready for "bed". Oh and there is sleeping, plenty of sleeping.


Where do you think all these homeless go not just to relieve themselves, but again to bathe, and so forth?




http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/arti...ng-booths.html

https://www.nytimes.com/2014/01/29/a...r-koreans.html


https://www.nytimes.com/2014/01/15/n...t-and-sit.html


Any place of business that tries to clamp down receives negative press (just as with Starbucks) and is brought into line.


https://voicesofny.org/2015/01/one-y...ome-mcdonalds/
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Old 05-21-2018, 10:37 PM
 
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Starbucks is changing their policy already.

https://www.wsj.com/articles/starbuc...icy-1526918854

They had too. All the libs around here LOVED the idea until the homeless illegals took their favorite comfy chairs
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Old 05-22-2018, 12:21 AM
 
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Starbucks is changing their policy already.

https://www.wsj.com/articles/starbuc...icy-1526918854

They had too. All the libs around here LOVED the idea until the homeless illegals took their favorite comfy chairs
Which is why they had the previous policy in the first place, as many businesses do.

Those who live in great areas never see the issue with it, as they have about zero drug and homeless issues. Places in areas with drug and homeless issues have to enact ways to keep these groups from using the facility as a meeting/resting/drug use station, driving away actual paying customers.
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Old 05-22-2018, 02:38 AM
 
Location: Santa Monica
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There are two categories of people looking to hang out without buying anything. Teens and individuals who work from home, but don't like working from home so they look for a place to park it for the day.

I doubt the latter will be an issue but the former may be.
I never understood the people who work from home that leave their house for a change of scenery.

The best part of working from home is no human interaction outside of what I'm doing for my business (phone calls, Skype).

I hate you normal people. Why would I want to see you during my day?

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Old 05-22-2018, 03:36 AM
 
Location: Honolulu, HI
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Why would anyone want to hang out in a Starbucks if they are not buying anything?
A good place to kill time because they have WiFi, bathrooms, air conditioning, seats, etc. Perfect for homeless, loiterers, poor people, broke people, people waiting on their cars to be fixed or spouse to be finished shopping, etc.

The perfect “waiting room.”
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Old 05-22-2018, 04:15 AM
 
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What's the occupancy of the average starbucks? How many seats are there? 25? 30?

I'd be interested in forming some meetups of people to just go sit and take up every spot so there is no space for a paying patron. Just hit a different store every day at peak meal times. Maybe stand in line too but when you get to the cashier, just say "Oh, no thanks, I just wanted to chat."

If it hurts their business they'll quickly realize how stupid the policy is.
Why not form a business start-up group with the same like-minded people & create/build a competing business model 'Moonbucks' or something like that?
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Old 05-22-2018, 05:09 AM
 
Location: NJ
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business model, attract non customers while at the same time repel paying customers...who have no place to sit.




Go to starbucks, look suspicious, get kicked out or rob the place. if you get kicked out, file a lawsuit.


Starucks Ad soon to be posted, "if you never met a homeless person or indigent tramp, wino or thug, come to our store and actually see and touch one."


figures, a company that has a name associated with killing whales, has now jumped the shark.


they need to change that name...very offensive to animal lovers. A monk made coffee popular drink...religious overtones.


Cultural appropriation, advocated by a slave owner...coffee is dog whistle to racists!!!!


'Coffee - the favorite drink of the civilized world." - Thomas Jefferson'

The colonies favored tea, after the Boston tea party the colonies switched over to coffee as the most popular drink.


Hope starbucks gives free coffee and an apology to all Ethiopians. Ethiopia is where coffee, as a drink, began.
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