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Old 05-23-2018, 02:35 PM
 
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Serious question though, Why do people keep bringing up or saying things like "They shouldn't protest at work or I can't protest things at my job"?

Stop comparing your job to theirs it is not even remotely the same. First off all most of you are not millionaires and second of all your job doesnt play the anthem before the start of you work day.

If they did play the anthem at your job then I guarantee that you'll see some protests.

you are wrong here. and its not about the anthem itself, its about protesting at a time and place that is inappropriate.



lets put you at your job, and lets give you a cause that you are passionate about, it doesnt matter the cause, now lets say you are at your work, and you are making political statements about your cause. but in making these statements, you are hurting the business itself, its reputation and its bottom line. do oyu think your employer will let you continue your protests? do you think your employer will continue to let you make your political statements?


the answer to those questions is no they wont. they will warn you, and if you continue, they will FIRE you. the NFL is no different. they are a PRIVATE company, and as such they have the power to suspend you or fire you for rules violations. and it does not matter the rules violation. if you hurt the reputation and the bottom line, you can be terminated whether you make millions throwing a ball around, or a couple thousand a week for doing what ever.
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Old 05-23-2018, 02:35 PM
 
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They better do something about the kneelers or they will have another season of empty stadiums and even less people watching games on TV. And commercial advertisers will be demanding lower ad rates.
That's quite true.

Americans can't handle the truth!

So much for the far too violent NFL anyways...

Now let's convert to some real football!

Let's convert from the NFL to the NSL!

Of course, we'll still be forced to deal with white racism even there too!
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Old 05-23-2018, 02:40 PM
 
Location: Midwest
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sorry, disrespect for our flag and our country. It is deplorable if I can borrow that word. There are other ways to protest. How would you feel if all the players that support our police were to react in some way during the game and disrupt everything? You think all the jerks that refuse to show respect for the police or refuse the stop when the police tell them to are in the right? Give it up, butter cup!!!!!!
Why is this issue more important to right-wingers than the fact that our children are being shot to death in schools???
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Old 05-23-2018, 02:43 PM
 
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In case it has not been posted. Players no longer required to come out on the field for the anthem.

NFL | NFL won't require players on field for anthem - Rotoworld.com

Pretty much going back to how things were in 2009
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Old 05-23-2018, 02:44 PM
 
Location: San Jose
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you are wrong here. and its not about the anthem itself, its about protesting at a time and place that is inappropriate.



lets put you at your job, and lets give you a cause that you are passionate about, it doesnt matter the cause, now lets say you are at your work, and you are making political statements about your cause. but in making these statements, you are hurting the business itself, its reputation and its bottom line. do oyu think your employer will let you continue your protests? do you think your employer will continue to let you make your political statements?


the answer to those questions is no they wont. they will warn you, and if you continue, they will FIRE you. the NFL is no different. they are a PRIVATE company, and as such they have the power to suspend you or fire you for rules violations. and it does not matter the rules violation. if you hurt the reputation and the bottom line, you can be terminated whether you make millions throwing a ball around, or a couple thousand a week for doing what ever.
This argument can be used the other way round. Why should players be forced into a public display of patriotism in a place where it is completely inconsequential. Its especially strange since the NFL is an American only league. I can understand national anthems in international matches but in a domestic league its completely silly.
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Old 05-23-2018, 02:44 PM
 
Location: Western PA
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Always remember and don't ever forget: citizens must obey and show reverence to the state. Our Glorious Leader must never be questioned. Believe the state media, for it is all-knowing. Woe to those who question or have grievances.
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Old 05-23-2018, 02:47 PM
 
Location: NYC
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You can protest at your job, it's called walking off the job. If you do that you are protesting on your own behalf and surely will be written up for not showing up for work.

NFL players have no idea they're destroying their brand and making it worse for the future NFL players. Goes to show what kind of leadership they have. Other leagues have player unions that've gotten much more than the NFL players union and they wouldn't touch kneeling.
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Old 05-23-2018, 02:51 PM
 
Location: Boston
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This argument can be used the other way round. Why should players be forced into a public display of patriotism in a place where it is completely inconsequential. Its especially strange since the NFL is an American only league. I can understand national anthems in international matches but in a domestic league its completely silly.
they aren't forced, they can stay in the locker room until the anthem is over... can you even read?
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Old 05-23-2018, 02:52 PM
 
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Working for the NFL requires you to do XYZ, if you don't do it you get fined or fired. The player accepted the working terms. Player 1 doesn't do Y, he will get fined, fired, or he can quit and find another job. Maybe the XFL doesn't have the same requirement, so he can go work there.
Their job as black men, is to stand up for African-American civil rights that have been relentlessly violated since slavery.

Kneeling is their way of standing up to a persistently racist society where unarmed black men, women, and children are consistently murdered and brutalized with complete impunity.

Since our president appoints Alt-Right staff members to be his closest advisors, there's little doubt that his imploring the kneelers to be fired, brought these far-right Republican NFL owners to this most ludicrous decision.

Either omit the anthem prior to the game altogether, or expect African-American men to kneel in protest of ubiquitous unfair overtly aggressive, brutal, and all to often, lethal responses on the part of LE against unarmed African-Americans...
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Old 05-23-2018, 02:53 PM
 
Location: San Jose
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they aren't forced, they can stay in the locker room until the anthem is over... can you even read?
So why are you all worked up? Let them sit out or kneel, who cares. Now go run along and do something useful.
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