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Old 05-23-2018, 08:52 AM
 
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“Of course the Russian efforts affected the outcome. Surprising even themselves, they swung the election to a Trump win. To conclude otherwise stretches logic, common sense, and credulity to the breaking point."

"Former Director of National Intelligence James Clapper has spoken out about the “staggering” amount of evidence that Russia’s President Vladimir Putin swayed the 2016 presidential election. In his new memoir, Facts and Fears: Hard Truths From a Life in Intelligence, Clapper offers a scathing assessment of President Trump and his ties to Russia. The book shows Clapper “free to say about the 2016 elections what he did not say when he testified multiple times before Congress as director of national intelligence,”

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Old 05-23-2018, 08:54 AM
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Clapper, dailybeast. Nuff said
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Old 05-23-2018, 08:55 AM
 
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I don’t think there’s much doubt that Russia interfered and caused more dissent and acrimony than they ever hoped, but it’s tough to objectively quantify the result and definitively conclude that it swung the election.
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Old 05-23-2018, 08:57 AM
 
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Clapper, dailybeast. Nuff said

Say what you want about Daily Beast but Mr. Clapper is experienced, knowledgeable and credible on the matter. The ONLY reason the right wing trashes him is because he dares to speak the truth about Trump's Russia ties.
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Old 05-23-2018, 08:57 AM
 
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How many times do we have to do this? Clapper is a proven partisan liar. His lie's have done great harm to this country and he should be in prison. He is a pile of............... nothing he says should be given a seconds of consideration.
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Old 05-23-2018, 08:58 AM
 
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Say what you want about Daily Beast but Mr. Clapper is experienced, knowledgeable and credible on the matter. The ONLY reason the right wing trashes him is because he dares to speak the truth about Trump's Russia ties.
I a not right wing and I do NOT understand how anyone that is not can still defend a guy that lied to the country under oath about the government spying on the citizens of this country.

When did that become acceptable?
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Old 05-23-2018, 08:59 AM
 
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clapp on. clapp off.
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Old 05-23-2018, 08:59 AM
 
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Oh goody !!! A book of lies from the Lord of Flies.

I couldn't tell the truth but now I can.
Are you lying now or were you lying then ?
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Old 05-23-2018, 09:02 AM
 
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Say what you want about Daily Beast but Mr. Clapper is experienced, knowledgeable and credible on the matter. The ONLY reason the right wing trashes him is because he dares to speak the truth about Trump's Russia ties.
The greater truth is that he Democrats and their further-Left allies were turned out in 2016 because a larger, somewhat less-educated, but far less-coddled segment of the population recognized the truth in spite of the sugar-coated lies of Obama and the Clintons.
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Old 05-23-2018, 09:04 AM
 
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I don’t think there’s much doubt that Russia interfered and caused more dissent and acrimony than they ever hoped, but it’s tough to objectively quantify the result and definitively conclude that it swung the election.

True, quantification of what the election might have been without Russian interference is impossible. However, the "drip drip drip" of WikiLeaks caused a steady erosion of Clinton's numbers in the polls and helped get Trump close enough to eke out his close win.
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