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View Poll Results: Is it acceptable to use Deadly Force to prevent a Rape?
Yes-shoot the SOB. Prevent a horrible crime and take a predator out of society 120 100.00%
NO-it's just sex, the woman will get over it. She has no right to be judge, jury and executioner. 0 0%
Voters: 120. You may not vote on this poll

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Old 05-23-2018, 02:48 PM
 
Location: alexandria, VA
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If you just scare him away, aren’t you just sending him out to rape some other woman 20 minutes later?

Heck, if you’ve already got the gun pointed at the guy, may as well stop him from raping whom knows how many more women in the future.
The rapist would have to be an immediate threat of raping another woman, otherwise lethal force isn't justified. If someone had the guy at gun point maybe they could try a citizen's arrest. But if he ran off, and therefore not an immediate threat, lethal force is out. Best thing at that point is call 911 and give a good description and last location.
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Old 05-23-2018, 02:55 PM
 
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The rapist would have to be an immediate threat of raping another woman, otherwise lethal force isn't justified. If someone had the guy at gun point maybe they could try a citizen's arrest. But if he ran off, and therefore not an immediate threat, lethal force is out. Best thing at that point is call 911 and give a good description and last location.
Nah. Just put him down and say he lunged at you.

We don't take rape seriously enough in this country. If he goes and rapes someone else he won't spend long enough in prison.
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Old 05-23-2018, 03:00 PM
 
Location: Ohio
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The scenario-an adult women, carrying a concealed firearm. She is confronted in a dark parking lot by a violent criminal that has vocalized his intention to rape her.

Question-is it acceptable to shoot him, knowing that this is likely to result in his death, to prevent the rape?

It's acceptable to shoot anyone who intends bodily harm, whether they intend to kill you or not.


When you violate the person or property of another, you automatically forfeit your existence.


There's no place in society for people who refuse to respect other people and their property.


The cost of crime in the US exceeds $1.2 TRILLION annually, when you weigh in the cost of property damages, injuries or loss of life, insurance losses, employer losses, medical costs, the cost of response by police and emergency services, the legal costs, the costs of incarceration, and the costs of probation and parole.


And that doesn't include the costs of emotional and psychological affects on victims.
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Old 05-23-2018, 03:00 PM
 
Location: Del Rio, TN
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Nah. Just put him down and say he lunged at you.

We don't take rape seriously enough in this country. If he goes and rapes someone else he won't spend long enough in prison.
The next attack may not stop at rape, the victim may very well end up dead. Someone in a position to stop a violent attacker has a moral (if not legal) responsibility to do so.
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Old 05-23-2018, 03:01 PM
 
Location: NJ/NY
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The rapist would have to be an immediate threat of raping another woman, otherwise lethal force isn't justified. If someone had the guy at gun point maybe they could try a citizen's arrest. But if he ran off, and therefore not an immediate threat, lethal force is out. Best thing at that point is call 911 and give a good description and last location.
I was going under the assumption that rape was imminent, and this was an act of self defense at this point and time. In this scenario, which I think is the intent of the OP, at the point the gun is pulled, shooting would be preferable to scaring him away.

Of course, she would have to shoot before he started to run. You cant shoot someone in the back and claim self defense.
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Old 05-23-2018, 03:04 PM
 
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The scenario-an adult women, carrying a concealed firearm. She is confronted in a dark parking lot by a violent criminal that has vocalized his intention to rape her.

Question-is it acceptable to shoot him, knowing that this is likely to result in his death, to prevent the rape?
WT?

How can you ask such a question and expect educated answers under such a preposterous assumption
The woman being attacked has the right to defend herself on the most basic level, having nothing to do with rape.
She has no clue if the guy is going to rob her, beat her, rape her, blind her, kidnap her, kill her, or any combination thereof.

So why should she put her fate & life into a criminals hands?
The answer is as obvious as it gets if one takes a millisecond to think about it.

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Old 05-23-2018, 03:06 PM
 
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How about simplify the question:

If someone decides to physically assault you, do you have the right to defend yourself?

Yes. You do.
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Old 05-23-2018, 03:08 PM
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Location: Great Britain
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You can use reasonable force in most countries to protect yourself and your property and this would include deadly force.
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Old 05-23-2018, 03:09 PM
 
Location: Anderson, IN
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yes, they teach you in CC class to be ready to fire if you pull it out. until then keep it holstered.

This has to be one of the most awesome double entendres ever.



Hehe


"scuse me while I whip this out!"


*screams*
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Old 05-23-2018, 03:10 PM
 
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How about simplify the question:

If someone decides to physically assault you, do you have the right to defend yourself?

Yes. You do.
Assault you or your property in any manner.

If you want my wallet I'll give you a bullet.

If I find you in my house pilfering through my tupperware drawer, same thing.

Just don't touch other people or their property, problem solved.
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