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Old 05-24-2018, 11:23 AM
 
Location: Boston, MA
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As well she should. How do those Pharisees know if the women they are heckling are coming in for a pap smear or contraception? I guess they brought it on themselves, being of lesser means and all. Humiliation is part of the package.
Lesser means? In Brookline Massachusetts???

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Old 05-24-2018, 11:45 AM
 
Location: Boston, MA
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God obviously created cervical cancer for a reason, and who are we to interfere in his plans?

Back in the back alleys, I guess. They have Sinned and they should Suffer.
I get it, you need me to be a religious whacko, otherwise, how can you marginalize me and my opinion?

How's this: I am a completely unreligious geologist who views abortion as the ending of a human life because once the egg is fertized by the sperm, the resulting zygote has it's own genetic makeup independent of the mother who is carrying it. Further, that if no action is taken, it will develop into a person.

Take that action all you want, just don't make me pay for it.
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Old 05-24-2018, 12:10 PM
 
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Yes, we know. It's not about abortion, never was. It's about separating the worthy from the unworthy. It's about scoring brownie points with God, not by your own deeds, but by telling others what to do. But it's rare to see an open admission - thanks for making it this clear.
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Old 05-24-2018, 12:11 PM
 
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I get it, you need me to be a religious whacko, otherwise, how can you marginalize me and my opinion?

How's this: I am a completely unreligious geologist who views abortion as the ending of a human life because once the egg is fertized by the sperm, the resulting zygote has it's own genetic makeup independent of the mother who is carrying it. Further, that if no action is taken, it will develop into a person.

Take that action all you want, just don't make me pay for it.
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Old 05-24-2018, 12:58 PM
 
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I get it, you need me to be a religious whacko, otherwise, how can you marginalize me and my opinion?
The comment was not directed at you. It was a comment on those harassing PP cleints on sidewalks. I think it's fair to call them religious whackos.

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How's this: I am a completely unreligious geologist who views abortion as the ending of a human life because once the egg is fertized by the sperm, the resulting zygote has it's own genetic makeup independent of the mother who is carrying it. Further, that if no action is taken, it will develop into a person.
Are you willing to take that to its logical conclusion? Wrongful death investigations into all miscarriages?
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Old 05-24-2018, 02:41 PM
 
Location: Long Island
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Actually I have no problem with the de-funding of Planned Parenthood because of some of their alleged illegal activities.

I heard there are about 60K community health care centers in the US to take care of women needs and I am pretty sure none sold body parts for profit.
So you want to defund PP from Title X funds because of some “alleged illegal activity”, how does that make any rational sense.
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Old 05-24-2018, 02:48 PM
 
Location: SoCal/PHX/HHI
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You should get your information from other sources besides propaganda news sites devoted to their own particular cause. In the first link you shared, they have a link to the document that the others I guess are trying to say are "defunding" PP.

Per that link, which is below, and which I was already aware BTW - PP is a non-profit association and any funds it receives from Title X are received via a grant/proposal selection process. So the government cannot "defund" PP since it is not a government program. They can only change the rules for the grants and grantees, like PP must follow their rules.

Now, since you are unaware or maybe won't admit as such, PP has not used Title X funds or any federal funds for abortion because that has never been allowed.

Also, in a proposal/RFP process, grantees cannot be denied participation or consideration by the granting agency (in this case the department of health and human services) unless they are debarred for some reason or have a bad track record that would make them disqualified. Contrary to what you'd like PP doesn't have a bad track record and is not debarred so they are eligible still, like they have always been to apply for and receive grant funding from the governing agency.

Also, note that PP is a medical clinic. People who have Medicaid or private insurance can and do receive standard care at their clinics. Their bulk of business is not abortion related.

Not sure why so many of you anti-abortionists are so focused on PP for this particular issue and ignore the other things they do. Also it would behoove you to learn how they funded so that you can see (finally) that government cannot waive a wand and "de-fund" them arbitrarily since they are not a wing of government.

I would think since you are anti-abortion that you'd support PP getting more grants to offer low or no cost birth control since contraceptives are the main way to prevent abortion in the first place.

Link to document: https://www.hhs.gov/opa/sites/default/files/title-x-nprm.pdf
Informative post, thank you.
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Old 05-24-2018, 02:59 PM
 
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Try to use your words.
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Old 05-24-2018, 03:06 PM
 
Location: Denver, CO
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U.S. House passes $1.3 trillion omnibus bill that keeps funding Planned Parenthood

Trump, Congress Fund Planned Parenthood | The Daily Caller

President Trump Just signed a spending bill that fully funds Planned Parenthood.

GOP's Spending Bill Fully Funds Planned Parenthood | cnsnews.com

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