Welcome to City-Data.com Forum!
U.S. CitiesCity-Data Forum Index
Happy Mother`s Day to all Moms!
Go Back   City-Data Forum > General Forums > Politics and Other Controversies
 [Register]
Please register to participate in our discussions with 2 million other members - it's free and quick! Some forums can only be seen by registered members. After you create your account, you'll be able to customize options and access all our 15,000 new posts/day with fewer ads.
View detailed profile (Advanced) or search
site with Google Custom Search

Search Forums  (Advanced)
View Poll Results: Should the church be taxed?
Yes, tax the church 103 60.59%
No, the church should remain tax exempt 53 31.18%
It depends (explain below) 14 8.24%
Voters: 170. You may not vote on this poll

Reply Start New Thread
 
Old 05-26-2018, 02:41 AM
 
Location: Free From The Oppressive State
30,355 posts, read 23,822,047 times
Reputation: 38848

Advertisements

Quote:
Originally Posted by rebeldor View Post
I've gotten "muh roads!" from 3 people so far today.
It's a damn shame that I'm not allowed to rep you repeatedly for each post. I'm sick to death of that "muh roads and services" argument when it comes to taxes. Fricken socialists have no clue.
Reply With Quote Quick reply to this message

 
Old 05-26-2018, 02:46 AM
 
Location: SE Asia
16,236 posts, read 5,901,025 times
Reputation: 9117
As long as we tax all the religions and not just the Cristians faiths.
Reply With Quote Quick reply to this message
 
Old 05-26-2018, 03:36 AM
 
79,907 posts, read 44,318,501 times
Reputation: 17209
Quote:
Originally Posted by Three Wolves In Snow View Post
It's a damn shame that I'm not allowed to rep you repeatedly for each post. I'm sick to death of that "muh roads and services" argument when it comes to taxes. Fricken socialists have no clue.
Sucks people want them and no people are not going to voluntary build them. We have this discussion over and over with no answer as to how we would build a major interstate with another system.

I'm not interested in traveling cross country on two lane dirt rooads.
Reply With Quote Quick reply to this message
 
Old 05-26-2018, 03:37 AM
 
79,907 posts, read 44,318,501 times
Reputation: 17209
Quote:
Originally Posted by Rocko20 View Post
Should’ve beeen taxed a long time ago, too late.

Joel Osteen, megachuch pastor, needs his private jets and McMansions
Osteen pays taxes.

These threads are always among the most ignorant.
Reply With Quote Quick reply to this message
 
Old 05-26-2018, 03:46 AM
 
79,907 posts, read 44,318,501 times
Reputation: 17209
Quote:
Originally Posted by GotHereQuickAsICould View Post
My argument is that there is no good reason that churches should be tax-exempt.

Regardless, of which legislation or which legislator they support, they shouldn't be tax-exempt.
"They" do not represent any legislator.

Quote:
Churches benefit from the infrastructure, support services, and protection the rest of us pay for. Why shouldn't they pay their fair share?
Politicians have made it so they don't pay property tax so they don't represent for any certain legislator. If they pay taxes then the Pastor can get up in front of many every Sunday morning and preach "vote for.........".

Quote:
If they have honest-to-God charitable deductions, then so be it. In my experience, the Salvation Army would probably be tax free as they walk the talk with soup kitchens, shelters, programs for recovering alcoholics, ...

Most other churches are little more than social clubs with a very small charitable component.
Here is where the ignorance rears its head. There is nothing to tax. There is no profit. Are you advocating we tax everyone based upon gross receipts?

Quote:
Reportedly, Billy Graham had a $25 million net worth and this didn't count all the church property that he and his family have the use of but didn't outright own.
I am not interested in "reportedly". I have the use of tens of thousands of acres of National Forest. Am I to be taxed on that? All members have the use of church property.

Quote:
Now why in the name of all that is holy should the rest of us be picking up any part of the tab for Billy Graham or his flock?

Look at all the property and wealth of the Catholic Church? Even paying off all the people that were sexually abused by priests didn't put a dent in their wealth.

Money changers at the temple.

There is simply no reason that the rest of us should be picking up the tab for Billy Graham's flock, the Catholic church, the Evangelicals, the Baptists, the Methodists, the Unitarians, .... none of them.
Billy Graham is dead and has no "flock".
Reply With Quote Quick reply to this message
 
Old 05-26-2018, 03:59 AM
 
Location: On the Chesapeake
45,558 posts, read 60,809,385 times
Reputation: 61193
Good for one, good for everybody. Other 501(c)(3) organizations:

Southern Poverty Law Center
Council on American-Islamic Relations
Planned Parenthood
Everytown For Gun Safety
The Gates Foundation
The Clinton Foundation

Be careful what you wish for.
Reply With Quote Quick reply to this message
 
Old 05-26-2018, 04:00 AM
 
41,813 posts, read 51,144,413 times
Reputation: 17865
Churches are non profits, if you want to tax them you will have to apply the same rules to all non profits.


/end thread
Reply With Quote Quick reply to this message
 
Old 05-26-2018, 04:16 AM
 
41,813 posts, read 51,144,413 times
Reputation: 17865
Quote:
Originally Posted by bawac34618 View Post
In an ideal society I would agree with this. However, the church has been politically active....

You can advocate on issues, you cannot advocate for specific parties or candidates. Other examples of non profits that operate like this are the NAACP, The Sierra Club, etc. Obviously both are very politically active and advocate on issues supported mostly by Democrats.


You can scream about churches until you are blue in the face but at the end of the day tax policy cannot target individuals or groups based on their ideology, political affiliation, religion or any other criteria that specifically singles them out.
Reply With Quote Quick reply to this message
 
Old 05-26-2018, 04:29 AM
 
51,671 posts, read 25,914,470 times
Reputation: 37901
Quote:
Originally Posted by thecoalman View Post
You can advocate on issues, you cannot advocate for specific parties or candidates. Other examples of non profits that operate like this are the NAACP, The Sierra Club, etc. Obviously both are very politically active and advocate on issues supported mostly by Democrats.


You can scream about churches until you are blue in the face but at the end of the day tax policy cannot target individuals or groups based on their ideology, political affiliation, religion or any other criteria that specifically singles them out.
Exactly. Tax them all.

Property taxes apply to all property.
Reply With Quote Quick reply to this message
 
Old 05-26-2018, 04:30 AM
 
45,277 posts, read 26,532,039 times
Reputation: 25029
"Thou shalt not steal" - good advice for the atheist as well as the christian.
Reply With Quote Quick reply to this message
Please register to post and access all features of our very popular forum. It is free and quick. Over $68,000 in prizes has already been given out to active posters on our forum. Additional giveaways are planned.

Detailed information about all U.S. cities, counties, and zip codes on our site: City-data.com.


Reply
Please update this thread with any new information or opinions. This open thread is still read by thousands of people, so we encourage all additional points of view.

Quick Reply
Message:


Over $104,000 in prizes was already given out to active posters on our forum and additional giveaways are planned!

Go Back   City-Data Forum > General Forums > Politics and Other Controversies

All times are GMT -6. The time now is 06:49 PM.

© 2005-2024, Advameg, Inc. · Please obey Forum Rules · Terms of Use and Privacy Policy · Bug Bounty

City-Data.com - Contact Us - Archive 1, 2, 3, 4, 5, 6, 7, 8, 9, 10, 11, 12, 13, 14, 15, 16, 17, 18, 19, 20, 21, 22, 23, 24, 25, 26, 27, 28, 29, 30, 31, 32, 33, 34, 35, 36, 37 - Top