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Old 05-31-2018, 08:15 AM
 
Location: Newport Beach, California
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His book enemy of the state is certainly very intersting, in my opinion.

I think he believes that Muslims are not willing capable of reforming Islam and that open criticism of it is necessary.

what he ever does is raise a holler over this issue, he might do a lot of good if he is listened to. Politicians in England need to stop dismissing his concerns as racist if they don't want true demagogues to take over.
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Old 05-31-2018, 08:20 AM
 
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Well, in the US, it's more likely that middle class young women will be sex trafficked by thugs of various persuasions (a lot of them non-Muslim). Many of them are groomed and recruited through the Internet or are flat-out kidnapped by being drugged at public venues like bars. There is also a huge underground in sex trafficking of children by pedophiles, most of whom are middle-aged white men. Many of those children are poor or come from broken homes. Are we really so much better than the UK when it comes to child and teen sex trafficking?
That is a worldwide problem, not specifically an American one, and we won't get arrested for pointing it out. If we had an epidemic of Islamic rape gangs in our country, there would be some who would try to bury it like the Brits do but there would be many who wouldn't stand for it and those people could not be silenced as they are in the UK. Indeed we have seen more isolated instances of this in our country, and there have indeed been attempts to silence people about it. One case in Idaho comes to mind. Nowhere near as widespread as what we're seeing in Britain though.

The UK turning its back on their problem has perplexed many Americans(and probably many Brits) for a long time and then when someone over there finally has the stones to speak up about it he's thrown behind bars to be brutalized by the very same people he's been exposing. Something isn't right about that, and stating that the crown was operating within the law in it's treatment of Robinson doesn't make it better.
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Old 05-31-2018, 09:00 AM
 
Location: SE UK
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So you've got a wall of crown licking links to hide behind but nothing to stop the muslim hordes from forcing their way in to your daughters' knickers.


Priorities man! The people pointing out what's happening aren't the problem.
Despite what you THINK you know, the truth is my daughters DO NOT have Muslim hordes forcing their way into their knickers, like I said you should perhaps try reading the MANY links that Brave New World has posted if you want to actually learn something about the UK, alternatively you could 'try' to back up your ludicrous claims with facts rather than fiction.
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Old 05-31-2018, 09:09 AM
 
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Despite what you THINK you know, the truth is my daughters DO NOT have Muslim hordes forcing their way into their knickers, like I said you should perhaps try reading the MANY links that Brave New World has posted if you want to actually learn something about the UK, alternatively you could 'try' to back up your ludicrous claims with facts rather than fiction.
And you better hope they never do, lest your precious crown turn its back on them.
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Old 05-31-2018, 09:12 AM
 
Location: Great Britain
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That is a worldwide problem, not specifically an American one, and we won't get arrested for pointing it out. If we had an epidemic of Islamic rape gangs in our country, there would be some who would try to bury it like the Brits do but there would be many who wouldn't stand for it and those people could not be silenced as they are in the UK. Indeed we have seen more isolated instances of this in our country, and there have indeed been attempts to silence people about it. One case in Idaho comes to mind. Nowhere near as widespread as what we're seeing in Britain though.

The UK turning its back on their problem has perplexed many Americans(and probably many Brits) for a long time and then when someone over there finally has the stones to speak up about it he's thrown behind bars to be brutalized by the very same people he's been exposing. Something isn't right about that, and stating that the crown was operating within the law in it's treatment of Robinson doesn't make it better.
If the UK is turning is back on the problem how come these men are before the courts and how come police forces are prioristisinf funding of Child Abuse Investigation Teams and the National Crime Agency has been succesful in numerous operations.

Even Tommy Robinson aknowledges that this is only a small minority of Muslims, who generally prey on girls in local authority care who are addicts, the gangs generally offer them drugs and alcohol in exchange for sex.

The Police, NCA, Social Services and numerous other agencies are wise to what is going on, and the days when sex abuse was largely ignored, indeed when Jmmy Saville and his ilk were allowed to get away with it are llong gone. Such crime is now prioritised by the police and other agencies and there have been numerous court cases.

As already explained in many legal systems sub judice (under judicial consideration) exists and the best way for a case to collapse is to start prejudicing the case. Only once the case is finished can you discuss al aspects of it with impunity, and at this point those guilty are pictured in the newspapers.

These case are sensitive they involve minors, indeed not just minors but minor rape victims who have a right to have their identities comcealed, as for the accused they are under any decent legal system innocent until proven guilty.

It's not often that I agree with Owen Smith in the Guardian but on this occasion even some of what he has to say makes sense.

'Tommy Robinson' is no martyr to freedom of speech - The Guardian
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Old 05-31-2018, 09:15 AM
 
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And you better hope they never do, lest your precious crown turn its back on them.
They won't. As for your comment about 'the crown' I bet you think the queen sits on a throne all day and gets peoples heads chopped off don't you! Oh and by the way the French don't all wear berets.
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Old 05-31-2018, 09:18 AM
 
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If the UK is turning is back on the problem how come these men are before the courts and how come police forces are prioristisinf funding of Child Abuse Investigation Teams and the National Crime Agency has been succesful in numerous operations.

Even Tommy Robinson aknowledges that this is only a small minority of Muslims, who generally prey on girls in local authority care who are addicts, the gangs generally offer them drugs and alcohol in exchange for sex.

The Police, NCA, Social Services and numerous other agencies are wise to what is going on, and the days when sex abuse was largely ignored, indeed when Jmmy Saville and his ilk were allowed to get away with it are llong gone. Such crime is now prioritised by the police and other agencies and there have been numerous court cases.

As already explained in many legal systems sub judice (under judicial consideration) exists and the best way for a case to collapse is to start prejudicing the case. Only once the case is finished can you discuss al aspects of it with impunity, and at this point those guilty are pictured in the newspapers.

These case are sensitive they involve minors, indeed not just minors but minor rape victims who have a right to have their identities comcealed, as for the accused they are under any decent legal system innocent until proven guilty.

It's not often that I agree with Owen Smith in the Guardian but on this occasion even some of what he has to say makes sense.

is no martyr to freedom of speech
Yes countries with no first amendment protections throw people in jail for speaking out, and crown apologists always have an excuse for it. You've made that plainly clear, with lots(and lots and lots) of links. Without people like Robinson this sort of thing stays covered up for even longer than it was. Then he's thrown in jail to face the twisted justice of those he's exposed, with your full support.
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Old 05-31-2018, 09:21 AM
 
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We didn't need a Citizen Reporter to blow it wide open.


https://www.reuters.com/video/2017/0...eoId=371182132


More women are armed here in public and at home, than in the UK.
And there's currently a trial underway in the U.K. while Trump's promise of "cracking down" is on the same shelf as his better and cheaper healthcare plan, his wall with Mexico paying for it, his jobs for middle Americans...the list is endless......

Women being armed does what for the young "little girls" you folks keep banging on about?

How in the devil does "more women being armed in the U.S. than the U.K." correlate with the fact more women, one out of every five, being sexually assaulted in the U.S. than in the entire U.K and parts of Europe combined?

Your guns ain't working dude!

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Old 05-31-2018, 09:22 AM
 
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They won't. As for your comment about 'the crown' I bet you think the queen sits on a throne all day and gets peoples heads chopped off don't you! Oh and by the way the French don't all wear berets.
More's the pity.


https://www.google.com/search?q=fren...w=1489&bih=734
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Old 05-31-2018, 09:25 AM
 
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Well, in the US, it's more likely that middle class young women will be sex trafficked by thugs of various persuasions (a lot of them non-Muslim). Many of them are groomed and recruited through the Internet or are flat-out kidnapped by being drugged at public venues like bars. There is also a huge underground in sex trafficking of children by pedophiles, most of whom are middle-aged white men. Many of those children are poor or come from broken homes. Are we really so much better than the UK when it comes to child and teen sex trafficking?
With or without the open border?

http://checkyourfact.com/2018/04/09/...ped-mexico-us/
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