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Old 06-14-2018, 07:26 AM
 
Location: The Republic of Texas
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I understand why Tommy is in jail. He broke the law as it stands. I don't understand moving him to a more dangerous jail for his safety.
The law is in place, so the people never know what the elite are doing.
Yes, Tommy broke the law of the elite and exposed the power difference, between them and the peasants.
Tommy has revealed just how high the Ivory Tower is.
Now, shut up & bow down to your MASTERS.
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Old 06-14-2018, 07:30 AM
 
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The UK seems to have an odd tendency to accurately predict the USA's de facto future and it's up to us to change course or sail right into it.

The British have been hiding one of the ugliest secrets imaginable 30-40 years now. For decades there have been absolutely rampant Muslim gangs that take pre-teen British white girls, force them into sex slavery and rape them as many as 50 times per day, every day for their entire teenage years and beyond. Thousands of these girls have been victimized in every city in England, even the ones with relatively tiny Muslim populations. Sounds like something the police should know about right? Surely they'll put a stop to this, right? No, actually the police repeatedly refused to do a damn thing about it. If anything, they'd arrest the odd 13 year old girl who was being gang raped for prostitution and let the men gang raping her go free, no questions asked. They did everything they could to hide the fact that this was happening. They've been hiding it for as long as 40 years that we know of and probably longer.

Enter Tommy Robinson. He grew up Lutten where there is a very large Muslim population and he knew what was happening first hand. "They're raping our girls and it's all Muslims that's doing it." He wouldn't shut up about it. The courts dug and dug for ways to shut him up. Anything to keep their dirty little rape-gang secret. The Mainstream Media demonized Tommy, calling him a racist and insisting that he was making all of it up. Tireless efforts by Tommy Robinson and many others forced their hand and they were forced to actually start investigating. Not only was it true, but these Muslim rape gangs were racking up victims at rates and numbers that were mind boggling. Thousands of girls per city. The authorities knew for as long as 40 years and had done nothing. Robinson was right. And we're only scratching the surface.

So how do you reward him for a job well done? He was arrested for filming outside a courthouse where one of these rape gangs were on trial. He read things already printed in a local newspaper. And he was arrested for contempt of court. They were in such a hurry to shut Tommy up, it only took 4 hours to toss him in a police van, take him to court, lie to his family lawyer so she didn't know to be there and somehow convinced him to pleading guilty to contempt of court. Then they tossed him in prison for 13 months.

All of that's old news. Here's what's new. Earlier today, Tommy was moved from Hull prison and it's relatively low Muslim population to Lester, a high security prison which has over 70% Muslim population. Muslims in and out of prison in the UK have vowed to kill him for years now. There's been a Fatwa on his head and in the prisons there's a reward for anyone who can kill Tommy Robinson. And they're apparently moving him into general population. You couldn't be more blatant in trying to intentionally get him killed. When you live in an authoritarian police state like the UK, committing a misdemeanor gets you a death sentence. It won't take them long to kill him. He might be dead already. I told you so!! In the UK, if anyone insults Islam, kill them!!


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Q6DfOqdJJY8


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HnuO-q8galM

Looks like even YouTube is helping out with the censorship game. I've already seen one video reporting on this deleted by YouTube for "hate speech." And you think you live in a free country.

PS: The man who ordered this is the Muslim Home Secretary from the Home Office (the British Equivalent of the White House). Imagine my shock! A Muslim sending Robinson to his death!



The USA is not immune to this type of oppression. Many jailed and killed over their resistance to the elite and powerful. It got so bad, they came for our guns.


The people sent them this:
The Declaration of Independence: Full text



Then.... WE KILLED THEM
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Old 06-14-2018, 08:00 AM
 
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Now, shut up & bow down to your MASTERS.
That you General Zod?.........
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Old 06-14-2018, 08:42 AM
 
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The English Defence League are essentially skinheads, and if they were in the U.S. they would be considered on par with the Klan. Robinson went to jail for defying a court order against reporting on the trials. He is reaping where he sowed.

Not at all my concern. Racists gonna racist, and idiots gonna idiot.
His oft repeated reason for leaving the EDL: The white supremacists and Nazi types were constantly infiltrating the organization and he found himself spending all his time kicking them. Then after years of digging for it, they found some mortgage paperwork that was wrong. They absolutely leap at the chance to send Robinson to prison, where they tried and failed to get him killed. When he finally got out, the EDL was overrun with the Nazis and white supremacists. Soon thereafter, Tommy Robinson gave up on the EDL and left it. Must suck seeing something you created ruined by *******s.
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Old 06-14-2018, 08:52 AM
 
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His oft repeated reason for leaving the EDL: The white supremacists and Nazi types were constantly infiltrating the organization and he found himself spending all his time kicking them. Then after years of digging for it, they found some mortgage paperwork that was wrong. They absolutely leap at the chance to send Robinson to prison, where they tried and failed to get him killed. When he finally got out, the EDL was overrun with the Nazis and white supremacists. Soon thereafter, Tommy Robinson gave up on the EDL and left it. Must suck seeing something you created ruined by *******s.





Show me the man... I will find you the crime.
The times we live in today.


We just thought Freedom & Liberty were spreading.
Lead by example?
8 years of leading from behind, has turned the world upside down.
It is not longer judicial, it is all pure political.
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Old 06-14-2018, 09:19 AM
 
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I really don't understand the level of hatred for your own country that goes into this kind of thing.

Muslims flee the hellholes they live in to find a better life in Western Europe, then they try to recreate the hellhole they just escaped. It's a very strange thing. This has been going on for many years now, but thanks to Obama's "Arab Spring" the trickle of Muslim immigration into Europe quickly turned into a flood. Refugees fleeing war zones Obama helped create on the one hand. The much larger flood is the black and north African migrants who aren't fleeing war zones, but know that Europe has a very nice fat welfare system waiting for them.

They are violent. They are entitled. They organize hate-rape gangs who have grabbed up thousands of white British girls as young as 11 years old or younger and subjected them to years and years of rape and sex trafficking. They're told they deserve it because they're not Muslims. The British police and government have apparently lost their minds and refuse to do anything about these "Grooming Gangs" for as much as 40 years, despite knowing perfectly well what was happening. Meanwhile, putting bacon on the door of a mosque got a guy that dislikes Muslims thrown in prison for a year. He was dead before the end of the year was up.

Tommy Robinson is something of a controversial character. He's been quite outspoken against the incoming flood of Muslims. He grew up dealing with a lot of violence and criminal behavior by Muslims in his hometown Luten. He's seen the worst of bad Muslim behavior first-hand and he quite fearlessly reports on it. Some say he exaggerates and much of it may be debatable. But what happened to him is no exaggeration. The British government went digging around in his past. They got him on a technicality that let them throw him in prison for fraud. Muslim gangs rule British prisons so he was put in solitary for his own protection. At one point, a judge decided to move him out of solitary. Within a day or two was beaten nearly to death by a gang of radical Muslims. The British government desperately wants Tommy Robinson to be silenced.

A couple days ago, Tommy Robinson was reporting outside the courthouse about a Muslim Rape Gang trial. He was arrested for disturbing the peace and within the hour he was sent to prison for 13 months. A gag order has been issued banning any of this even being talked about by anyone in the UK. Clearly they want to hide the fact that they've sent Tommy to prison. It is extremely likely that the radical Muslim gangs that dominate the prisons in the UK will kill him and the British government knows it. In fact they're probably counting on it.

This is why the 2nd Amendment is so important. Someday, your government might decide to stop protecting you from the bad guys. Someday, you might find yourself in George Orwell's "1984" like the UK is now. RIP United Kingdom. You will be missed.
Don't do the crime if you can't do the time.
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Old 06-14-2018, 09:42 AM
 
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First of all it's Luton and not Lutten, secondly Leicester (not Lester) is not a High Security Prison, it's a local prison with a relatively small prison population of 408, and is not 70% Muslim and other than some social media nonsense there has been no confirmation that Robinson has been moved,however Leicester is closer to his family and would make it easier for then to visit him.

Leicester Prison information - Justice.gov.uk

Secondly if there is any threat to Robinson he will be removed from the General Population.

Thirdly, there are lots of sex trafficking and grooming gangs across the world, indeed the Russian, Albanian and other East European Mafia groups were heavily involved.

In terms of Muslim gangs they preyed on vulnerable girls were either in or had just left local authority care council care, offering them drink and drugs in exchange for sex, and since Rotherham there has been massive changes made and numerous reports.

Indeed the Independent Office for Police Conduct (IOPC) and the National Crime Agency both opened inquiries, the latter is also still investigating in relatiuon to Operation Stovewood.

The Government appointed Louise Casey to conduct an inspection of Rotherham Council. The report was published in January 2015, the Casey report concluded that the council had a bullying, sexist culture of covering up information and silencing whistleblowers, and was "not fit for purpose"

The senior offices at Rotherham Council and Social Services all resigned following the Jay report in 2013, and the Government put the council in to special measures and sent in a Government task force to run it. The Social Services Department has now been improved tro a level where it has a rating of 'Good' by The Office for Standards in Education, Children's Services and Skills (OFSTED), whilst the Care Quality Commission also reviwed all services.

The Independent Office for Police Conduct (IOPC) has already reveiwed many of the police cases and is still to find any misconduct, however the investigation is still on-going.

There were a number of rccomendations at the time including more police resources and police trained in Child Sexual Expoitation (CSE), and the setting up of joint police and social services units. Child Sexual Explitation is now very high up in the list of police priorities alongside terrorism and organised crime.

On a national level the National Crime Agency has set up specialist units and works closely with Scotland Yard's Child Abuse Investigation Team, and there are now numerous local and regional police teams who work closely with councils, social services and education services, as well as a number of NGO's such as the NSPCC, Barnardos, the NWG Network etc.

There has been massive change since 2013 in relation to CSE, organised crime and human trafficking.
1. The government tried like mad to hide the fact that he'd been jailed to begin with. They're really keen to sweep this whole mess under the rug and pretend it's not happening. Do you honestly trust them?
2. Did he ask for this move? Did his family ask for this move? Who asked for it? I'm told by a number of sources that Leicester is notorious for violence in the prison. Note the video by ex-prisoner Cody saying, "It's like somebody shopped around and found the most dangerous prison they could find, then moved him there." Cody is a bit of an expert when it comes to prison life and prison politics. Is he lying?
3. There already is a significant threat to Robinson's life. There's was a price on his head long before they threw him in prison. The authorities already know this. They almost got him killed before, so there's good reason to not trust them this time around. Just putting him in general population is an obvious attempt to get him killed at this point.
4. The sheer scale of the UK grooming gangs is massive. The centrality of Muslims, most from Pakistan, is clear in every case uncovered thus far. The victims all tell the same story: They were repeatedly told they deserved it because they were filthy white trash whores and not nice good Muslim girls. Those sorts of Muslims account for 85% of the people perpetrating this, in a country with 5% Muslim population. These are hate crimes. When will they be recognized as such?
5. You're portrayal of how they victimize is dishonest, victim blaming and kinda irrelevant. A group of 40 year old men are committing a crime if they're having sex, "consentual" or not, with a 13 year old girl. But the police kept only arresting the girls and letting their Muslim masters go free, no questions asked.
6. They call them "grooming gangs" for a reason. These girls were groomed to make them complicit sex slaves - at least as complicit as you could make them. Sure does help things along when a girl reports it to the police repeatedly, bringing her clothes with the evidence all over them and the police "lose" those clothes and do absolutely nothing. When nobody will help you, you tend to give up.
7. Everyone was shocked at the horrors of Rotherham. The sheer scale and duration of what was happening there and the blatant disregard by the police and authorities was outrageous. Trouble is, they keep finding the exact same thing in places like Telford -- which was even worse in every way -- Oxford, Newcastle, Rochdale and the hits just keep on coming. Now that they actually give a crap, the authorities have only scratched the surface of this monster. In every case, the numbers are appalling and in every case, it's run by Muslims.
8. You have Tommy Robinson and other activists to thank for the heightened awareness that is now on Muslim rape-gangs. Your government and MSM was determined to suppress the information and ignore the victims and demonize the messenger. How many years were they saying that TR was crazy and making it all up?
9. How many other grooming gang whistle-blowers are in prison right now? Should be zero but it's not. It's almost like somebody is out to get them.

I do appreciate the corrections. Leicester not Lester. Luton not Lutten. And Leicester has a 71% migrant population. Not all of those migrants are Muslim, but a lot of them are. Probably comes out to well over 50% Muslim which is still unusually high. Fact remains, they moved him out of a prison with a low Muslim population to a prison with the highest Muslim population they could find. And it is higher security than Hull, so he was moved in with more violent and dangerous criminals. It will be interesting to see how the Home Office and the insanely biased Mainstream Media try to spin this ... whenever they get around to admitting it of course.

Ultimately, Robinson was rushed through a kangaroo court and tossed in prison for 13 months for what we would classify as a misdemeanor. The 3 month suspended sentence was excessive. Adding 10 months was over-the-top excessive. Doing it in less than 5 hours should raise all kinds of red flags. The UK mainstream press has and does report on these rape-gangs. They reported the same things Tommy did and they do the same sorts of things Tommy did. How many are in prison right now for it?
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Old 06-14-2018, 10:04 AM
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1. The government tried like mad to hide the fact that he'd been jailed to begin with. They're really keen to sweep this whole mess under the rug and pretend it's not happening. Do you honestly trust them?
No it didn't the Government launched a public inquiry in to Rotherham and the imprisonment of Robinson was down to repeated contempt of Court as already explained.

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2. Did he ask for this move? Did his family ask for this move? Who asked for it? I'm told by a number of sources that Leicester is notorious for violence in the prison. Note the video by ex-prisoner Cody saying, "It's like somebody shopped around and found the most dangerous prison they could find, then moved him there." Cody is a bit of an expert when it comes to prison life and prison politics. Is he lying?
They don't give you a brochure and ask you to choose a prison when you go in to the prison system.

As for Leicester Prison, it has a total prison population of 308 of which 44 are Muslim, which is actually less than at Hull.

No, Tommy Robinson hasn't been moved to a 71% Muslim prison - Daily Mirror

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3. There already is a significant threat to Robinson's life. There's was a price on his head long before they threw him in prison. The authorities already know this. They almost got him killed before, so there's good reason to not trust them this time around. Just putting him in general population is an obvious attempt to get him killed at this point.
If the prison system feel there is any threat to Robinson they can take him out of general population or he can request to be taken out himself. Rules 43 and 45 allow for this and each prisoner is assessed and is assigned an officer who he can talk to about such issues.

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4. The sheer scale of the UK grooming gangs is massive. The centrality of Muslims, most from Pakistan, is clear in every case uncovered thus far. The victims all tell the same story: They were repeatedly told they deserved it because they were filthy white trash whores and not nice good Muslim girls. Those sorts of Muslims account for 85% of the people perpetrating this, in a country with 5% Muslim population. These are hate crimes. When will they be recognized as such?
Muslims do not account for most sexual abuse or Child Sexual Exploitation, in terms of the scale, there were a number of gangs in certain cities, however as already explained in my previous post the reccomendations made by public inquires and reports as seen whole sacle change, and local multi agency Child Sexual Exploitation (CSE) Units which include social services, youths ervices, education services, the police/national crime agency and numerous other agencies have been formed in every area and region.

Rotherham council were put in to special measures and taken over by a Government taskforce, it's leaders and cabinet were all forced to resign and new reccomendations wqere pout in place by the Casey Report and Jay Inquiry.

Government to take over Rotherham council after damning child child exploitation report - The Guardian

Rotherham Council's leadership resigns following damning child sex abuse report - The Telegraph

The child service were recently ramked as good byThe Office for Standards in Education, Children's Services and Skills (OFSTED).

Rotherham children's services 'transformed' since abuse scandal | Guardian

The progress made in relation to the Casey Report and Jay Inquiry on a local and national scale is continually published.

Tackling child sexual exploitation: progress report - Progress 2017

The Independent Inquiry in Child Sex Abuse looks in to ALL historic child sex abuse allegations and makes reccomendations.

IICSA Independent Inquiry into Child Sexual Abuse

The National Crime Agency is carrying out a thorough investigation in to Rotherham and other such cases.

National Crime Agency - Operation Stovewood

The Indepenent Office for Police Conduct will investigate every single complaint in relation to Rotherham to estanlish if there was any misconduct on the part of the police.

Rotherham child sexual abuse operation continues to grow - Independent Office for Police Conduct (IOPC)

Child trafficking and grroming is a problem in numerous countries, including the US which has a significant problem.

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5. You're portrayal of how they victimize is dishonest, victim blaming and kinda irrelevant. A group of 40 year old men are committing a crime if they're having sex, "consentual" or not, with a 13 year old girl. But the police kept only arresting the girls and letting their Muslim masters go free, no questions asked.
The police did arrest them hence the numerous Court cases, and the long sentences handed out, and hence massive police operation such as Operation Stovewood.

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6. They call them "grooming gangs" for a reason. These girls were groomed to make them complicit sex slaves - at least as complicit as you could make them. Sure does help things along when a girl reports it to the police repeatedly, bringing her clothes with the evidence all over them and the police "lose" those clothes and do absolutely nothing. When nobody will help you, you tend to give up.
Again the police and the CPS have made numerous prosecutions and there have been numerous improvements and reccomendations implimented following major public inquires.

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7. Everyone was shocked at the horrors of Rotherham. The sheer scale and duration of what was happening there and the blatant disregard by the police and authorities was outrageous. Trouble is, they keep finding the exact same thing in places like Telford -- which was even worse in every way -- Oxford, Newcastle, Rochdale and the hits just keep on coming. Now that they actually give a crap, the authorities have only scratched the surface of this monster. In every case, the numbers are appalling and in every case, it's run by Muslims.
Part of the reason they are uncovering more cases is that the police have now formed special units in relation to Child Sexual Exploitation, and are determined to work towards an erradication of thses gangs. Whilst in terms of Telford the police have already stated that intial reports by the tabloid media sensationalised the extent of the abuse.

Telford abuse: Victim numbers 'sensationalised' says police chief - BBC News


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8. You have Tommy Robinson and other activists to thank for the heightened awareness that is now on Muslim rape-gangs. Your government and MSM was determined to suppress the information and ignore the victims and demonize the messenger. How many years were they saying that TR was crazy and making it all up?
Total nonsense.

We have been aware of these gangs since Rotherham, when there was a public inquiry, and lots of media coverage and reccomendations and improvements have been initiated since that time.

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9. How many other grooming gang whistle-blowers are in prison right now? Should be zero but it's not. It's almost like somebody is out to get them.
Nobody is in prison for whistle-blowing, indeed Tommy Robinson is not in prison for whistle-blowing he's in prison for breaking the rules around court cases, the same rules which have existed throughout the English Legal System.

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I do appreciate the corrections. Leicester not Lester. Luton not Lutten. And Leicester has a 71% migrant population. Not all of those migrants are Muslim, but a lot of them are. Probably comes out to well over 50% Muslim which is still unusually high. Fact remains, they moved him out of a prison with a low Muslim population to a prison with the highest Muslim population they could find. And it is higher security than Hull, so he was moved in with more violent and dangerous criminals. It will be interesting to see how the Home Office and the insanely biased Mainstream Media try to spin this ... whenever they get around to admitting it of course.
Leicester has a 30% immigrant population, and not 71%, it is a small multi-cultural city.

Again try looking at the actual figures instead of listening to Alex Jones.

No, Tommy Robinson hasn't been moved to a 71% Muslim prison - Daily Mirror

In terms of Hull it is a Catergory B Local Prison, which is the same as Leicester.

HM Prison Hull - Wikipedia

HM Prison Leicester - Wikipedia

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Ultimately, Robinson was rushed through a kangaroo court and tossed in prison for 13 months for what we would classify as a misdemeanor. The 3 month suspended sentence was excessive. Adding 10 months was over-the-top excessive. Doing it in less than 5 hours should raise all kinds of red flags. The UK mainstream press has and does report on these things. How many are in prison right now for it?
I have answered this numerous times in previous posts.

Tommy Robinson 'the martyr' – how the far right builds its victim narrative - The Conversation

Debunking the myths around the Tommy Robinson contempt of court case - i Newspaper


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Old 06-14-2018, 10:08 AM
 
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Don't do the crime if you can't do the time.
It's the 100% valid complaint by blacks and minorities in the USA: If a cop follows you for long enough, sooner or later he's going to catch you breaking some traffic law or another. They went digging for any excuse to throw Tommy Robinson in prison. The things they're catching him on are pretty trivial that often don't result in any prison time. But Tommy Robinson gets tossed in for as many months as possible. The authorities knew he was at extreme risk, but tossed him in general population anyways. TR got all of his teeth knocked out and a few ribs broken by a group of Muslims in for murder. He was in for mortgage fraud.

Tommy's a bull in a China shop, but he doesn't deserve death for his troubles, much less 13 months in prison for a fairly minor offense. The UK has this bizarre system where they can tell all the press and all the citizens, "You are not allowed to talk about X." They actually put up with it. I'm baffled by that fact. Judges have the power to silence their entire nation on a whim and everybody is okay with it.
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